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Just when you thought there weren’t any rhetorical depths left for chavismo to plumb, we get this:

“Miranda deserves a governor with a wife and daughter.”

-Elías Jaua

Yup, Jaua’s going there: the new stage of the anti-Henrique Capriles campaign is to slyly suggest he’s gay. Or that he’s anti-family. Or that he’s weird for not having a personal life. Whatever sticks.

I find the gay-baiting really, really weird. Didn’t Capriles only recently end a relationship with the scrumptious Erika de la Vega? Yes, he did.

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  1. I thought my English was fairly up to snuff until I spotted the word, ‘deserve’ (which I suppose was ‘merecer’) in the statement there: from the (disad)vantage point of my seemingly limited appreciation of ‘deserve’, I am reduced to asking temorously, ‘why’?

  2. Not recently, but yes… (at least 4, or 5 years ago). But the main question would be, isn´t this an indirectly attack to Chavez itself? Miraflores have been without a “Primera Dama” for a long time now.

    (just a couple of weeks ago I was thinking this would be one of the weak points for Capriles campaing)

    • I think Jaua was trying to make a clever remark to indirectly imply that HCR is gay. Instead, he inadvertently messed up with the big boss. I am sure he will not repeat it after the scared soggy bottom henchmen point him out the mistake he made. He must be regretting it already. Jaua, after all, is not the smartest cookie in the jar.

    • According to Chavista logic, Chávez has proven to be able to lead the country, as he has begotten several children…he is the new sire of the Nation or Padre de la Patria.
      In that sense he is better than Bolívar, who was said to be a stallion but did not breed. I don’t think it is gratuitious Chavistas put such an effort to the ceremony of “burying Manuela’s imaginary ashes in Caracas”. The whole semiotics is there: these are real men.

  3. Well, what can you expect from someone who doubtfully belongs to the homo SAPIENS group?

    Besides, by the same token, we then would need someone at the presidency with a normal married life, and who would not be kissing transvestites or admiring the beautiful eyer of … another man! We certainly DO NOT deserve the later.

  4. Being gay has nothing to do with what we deserve or not as citizens. Tha stupid Jaua would reason like that is something to be expected, but take a look at youselves…

  5. Jaua is simple minded sycophant that has no original ideas just that he can throw out hate & envy quotes just like his master.

    Remember always that these kinds of outrageous statements are aimed at the Chavista VTV cult. They know that normal people just laugh at them.

  6. Well, it’s nice of Jaua to publicly admit that the only category where he could possibly beat Capriles is in the number of wives and daughters…

    What’ next? He’s gonna claim that Miranda deserves a governor who wears glasses?

  7. Jaua-doing his chavista part- being an idiot irritant to anyone and anything
    that he thinks may be disturbing micommandante. What an immmature jerk!!
    Freakin hatchetman-so stupid he hacks himself and Chavez.

  8. What a stupid thing to say from Jaua. I don’t really get what he tried to say or suggest, so I think he just said that because he didn’t have anything else?
    Is it the macho culture kicking in? Really? Are we still living in the 1800’s? In order to be a good manager (which is what we really need) we have to check first if the person is capable of breeding or having a relationship with someone of the other sex? Really???

    • Carolina, why the surprise?

      In this day and age, machismo is alive and kicking in Venezuela, especially since HCF took over.

      Of course it shouldn’t be that way, no question. Just one more thing to do to get our country out of the hole its in.

      • No surprise really. Maybe I just wanted to point out what you said: “it shouldn’t be that way, no question”. In fact, I was just thinking that asking for the age, the gender, the marital status and a photo in the curriculum vitae should be absolutely illegal, when I read this posting, so it stirred up my frustration.

      • Aaaand I keep thinking: where the heck is the voice of the opposition that hasn’t come up publicly and loud saying that Jaua is sexist and that this is a very discriminatory remark?

    • And this is why I will always be bewildered by the fact than in the same land we can have people that can easily generate highly intelligent comments – yours – and morons that blurt out idiocy all the time (Jaua). But then, what can you expect from a tirapiedras (literally).

      • Just a handful of tirapiedras is ok, you need then in order to stay in shape. The problem is that now we have 50% of a country that think these morons’ way is the right way to do things.
        All this is reminding me the memorable intervention of Iris Varela at the Assembly telling MCM that she needed botox…! And nobody said anything about the stupidity of that comment! Actually, our society has became so shallowly stupid that maybe they were thinking to themselves “Iris is right. She also needs a boob job”. I’m almost certain that will be the next one from the chavistas: “Venezuela needs a presidenta with a good rack.”
        Geez.

        • “Just a handful of tirapiedras is ok, you need then in order to stay in shape.”

          LOL! that was a good one.

          The amount of envy these chimps feel over Maria Corina is overwhelming. They won’t recover from it in this lifetime. There is something with these marginales that make them feel an irrational anger towards someone educated, beautiful and very classy. The proper thing would be to follow her example, but that would be too much for Iris Varela. MCM time can and will come one day, and I for one will salute that. But IMHO she needs more political experience.

          • Please, please refrain using terms like chimps (micos, rabble, etc.). Offensive and a boomerang. i find it troubling that people think in those terms but one can’t tell anyone what to think. However, one can make suggestions re. language that, btw, can only harm MCM.. It’s no just a question of being politically correct, it’s also a question of being opposition savvy.

  9. Jaua reminds me of a petulant little boy, trying to be a bad-ass, but not succeeding because of that dumb-looking face. In the end, he’s still wearing ‘pantalones cortos’. Evidently, his wife hasn’t helped me mature.

      • RN, while I could use some maturing, you got me thinking, who is Jaula’s wife and daughter? Why don’t we see them? I say, let Jaula parade his family in Miranda’s public spaces, if he’s going to make a big deal out of HCR’s lack of same.

        • Actually, I was laughing at the slip, not whether you need maturing or not.
          Easiest way to mature is to wrap newspaper ’round your noggin’.

          Frankly, I always thought Jaua sounded kind of gay to begin with.

          “Se le va la quinta” “Pasando aceite” every now and then.

        • Not to mention calling him “Jaula” when you talk about his wife and daughter. I imagine that living with him really would be like a jail sentence. Minimum security, since he does leave the house most every day.

        • Really? Look around you.
          Like it or not, a significant number of Venezuelan women are into artificial beauty, “enhancements” and such. The “Osmel Sousation” is widespread amongst all social strata. Sure there are still some great women in our society, women that do not think they need these things to be real, but let’s just say that plastic surgery is THE booming med specialty and has been so for years now. I should know, there are 3 plastic surgeons in my extended family.

          E and even F denizens saving up for boob jobs is more common than you may think.

          Last year, we even had a candidate offering a boob job as the prize in a fundraising raffle.

          You may not like or subscribe to my statement above, but sad as it is, it is true more often than not.
          Hell, you might as well call Caracas “Silicone Valley”.

          • Let me try to understand what your point is. The fact that nowadays the enhancements are (sadly) very common, it means is right to you? Because it does sound like you feel proud of it.
            For me it’s absolutely embarrassing and another one to the list of “por eso estamos como estamos”.

          • Carolina, I do not admire people who only think of enhancing their bodies and leave their minds behind. Or put another way, I do not admire people and societies that value the physical above all else.

            Do I like to see a “well formed” woman walking down the beach? Yes, I do.

            If she turns out to be a bimbo airhead, then I really feel sad for her because one day gravity and time will do their job and she’ll be left with a lot less than a smart woman.

            In today’s world, the focus on physical appearance is so strong, inside and outside Venezuela that I have a hard time sometimes in giving my daughters advice (15 and 12). The premium placed on “beauty” gets very hard to deal with when it is everywhere you look. It is very hard to impart values when you hear of a 15 year old getting a boob job and showing it off to her friends.

            So no, I am not proud or happy about it. Plastic surgery has its place and time. Sadly it is much abused, both at home and to a lesser extent, abroad

    • If you want to have a segundo frente just don’t involve her (or him) with your job like Lusinchi did. Personal and private matters should stay that.

  10. OK guys and gays here it goes….will the oppo be willing to field an openly gay candidate for ANY post in Venezuela or are they as backwards as the Chavistas. The time has come to break that glass cieling. And given that Chile, Brazil and Argentina, have beaten us on the women front, could Venezuela step up to the plate on that one.

    My guess probably not.

    • There are prominent opposition politicians who are gay. They’re not completely out of the closet in the sense that they’re not talking about it constantly, but everyone knows.

      • Yeap, they are. And sometimes it worries me a little bit that non of them are capable of going out of the closet. I hate to say this, but VP seems as the only opposition party of is having a franc discussion about LGBT rights and have openly gay activists

  11. Really? Are they playing the gay card? I mean this is really “funny” thinking that this is still such a taboo in Venezuela that he did not even mention the word “gay” because it is too politically incorrect. I always thought that, odd enough, Venezuelans did not care much about their politics personal lives, i.e. Lusinchi, so first of all, I do not think this will work in anyway… I mean it will never work if they even cannot pronounce the word “gay”. I really felt insulted. I am a gay guy who of course could not continue leaving in Venezuela where there is not any legal protection or rights. But that they almost say that being gay, supposing that was Jaua’s goal, is some kind of handicap for handling a public office, it is just plain wrong. But, well, what can I expect of these people that always insult people that think different than them.

    BTW, with no intention of having a discussion in this subject, saying that Jaua could be gay because he talk in this or that way or whatever Venezuelan cliché “doble sentido” joke, it is actually pretty insulting. First, because I do not want Jaua in the gay bag LOL. Second, because it is stereotyping.

    Regards

    • OK HD, since I was the one that said bout Jaua “he sounded kind of gay” when he spoke I’ll reply.

      In the course of my 49 years on this planet, and having lived on 3 continents I can tell you this:

      I have met exactly one man who talks “effeminately” and is not gay. The rest (and it has been hundreds if not thousands) all turned out to be gay. Which is neither good nor bad, in my book. Just different, and not a choice I would choose to make for myself.

      While there certainly are plenty of gay men who do not speak “effeminately”, it has been my experience that the reverse is, in practical terms, not true.

      Hence the terms “pasando aceite, botando la quinta”, etc, etc.

      You are like one acting teacher I had who got mad at me because I told someone in an acting workshop that they had to tone down the “New York Jewish’ accent. The fact the teacher was a Jew who was born and raised in New York might have had something to do with the fact that he didn’t think there was such a thing as a “New York Jew” accent, nasal tones a la Fran Drescher (aka, The Nanny) be dammed. But to everyone else in the workshop, including the actor being criticized, it was clear as day what I meant, and that it was an observation and not a condemnation. Likewise for my bit about Jaua, who sounds kinda effeminate when he talks, and goes around inferring someone else may be, which I find ironic, to say the least.

      • Roberto,

        I did not intend this to be a discussion or anything. I did not think that your intention was actually insulting or something like that. I understand your view that you have met a lot of men who talk effeminately and were gay. The problem is that those simple comments like “pasando aceite, botando la quinta” are in a way insulting because they are used, sometimes, to ridicule gay people, as in other times they are just to joke. So they are quite delicate. On the other hand, it still is a generalization of a behavior of a community. In the “New York Jew Accent” maybe you can say that a lot of jew newyorkers have an accent, but it is not proper to say that all of them have them, get it? Or maybe I can go to an extreme and say that “All blacks are thieves”

        PD: How said that being gay is a choice?? 😉

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