Folks, its official. Maduro is not Colombian. So says our highest court. 

As if acting on some sort of premonition that his nationality would come into question these days, Maduro (well, PSUV ex-congressman Elvis Amoroso) conveniently filed a suit before the Supreme Tribunal (TSJ) last week to clarify any doubts about his birthplace.

Basically, in 9 days, the Constitutional Chamber rendered a ruling which concluded that:

a) Maduro is Venezuelan by birth,

b) He does not have another nationality,

c) He was born in La Candelaria,

d) His birthday is November 23 1962 (save the date, everyone!),

and therefore meets the constitutional requirements to be President as stated in articles 41 and 227 of the Constitution.

The court also ruled that this topic will not be discussed again at the Constitutional Court. Period.

Here’s the ruling for your reading pleasure, you can scan it while you put away that bandeja paisa you had been eyeing for dinner tonight.

Alternatively, you can always check out what the Capybara has to say on the matter. They usually get it right.

 

29 COMMENTS

  1. For once I agree with the TSJ, it was a silly, baseless case borned out of the ugly xenophobia of some Venezuelan against Colombians refected in this article’s tite.

    • How is it xenophobic that Colombians should be happy that Maduro is not Colombian? (ojo, I think the birther movement is ridiculous as well, what I don’t find ridiculous is how the TSJ is becoming Maduro’s personal public relations firm.)

    • Look, I don’t know if Maduro is Colombian or not, and at this point it would be the least important reason to get rid of him.

      But hell, what are you saying?? That if he happened to be Colombian we shouldn’t mind? Otherwise we would be xenophobes?

      Suppose for argument sake that Colombians found out one day that their president was Venezuelan, and tried to get rid of him because of that. Would they be xenophobes too? Because I would certainly not feel that way. I would certainly understand them, and I’m Venezuelan.

      So what you are saying, my dear (I suposse Colombian) friend, is complete nonsense. No country in the world would tolerate having a foreign president.

        • Well, Australia is a different issue altogether. They are still ruled by the british queen for that matter, and they still feel a deep connection to the UK, so the fact that they accepted being governed by an Australian born in Scotland is not that surprising, even more considering that this happened at the beginning of the 20th century, when most Australians thought of themselves as basically being british.

          In any case, you can still be Venezuelan even if you are born abroad (which, for example, may happen if your parents are Venezuelan). The problem is having a second nationality. That’s explicitly forbidden in the constitution, and I don’t know of many countries that do allow for the double nationality of their presidents.

        • Andrew Bonar Law, Prime Minister of Great Britain (1922-1923) was born in Canada. However, neither he nor Andrew Fisher are truly relevant examples, because at the time,.Australia, Ireland, and Canada were all non-sovereign parts of the British Empire. For instance, neither Australia nor Canada declared war in 1914, nor signed the Treaty of Versailles in 1919. Britain’s actions in both cases was considered to apply to the entire Empire.

          Judicial appeals to the House of Lords were still possible till 1949 (from Canada) and 1986 (Australia).

          Even today, Britain, Canada, and Australia all share the same Head of State (Her Majesty the Queen).

  2. Why ridiculous? Nobody has ever seen his birth certificate. In Venezuela birth certificates are public documents. Evidently he doesn’t have a venezuelan one.

  3. Besides, Venezuelan birtherism looks cheap and intellectually bankrupt. Attacking one’s nationality is what people do when they’re out of arguments. Maduro has done enough to warrant his immediate removal without resorting to scraping the barrel.

      • It’s a tall order. Carlos Andres Perez was a dual national as well and it didn’t stop him. Now granted, this was before the 1999 Bolivarian constitution which is a little more cut and dry on the matter. But the unhappy reality is that constitutional order, adherence to process, and rule of law are about as short in supply as other sundry items.

        To suddenly care so much about Maduro being a dual national almost cheapens everything else that really matters. The optics are simply terrible. Forget all the illegal imprisonments, the unconstitutional decrees, illegal court packing, suspending a recall and the state sponsored violence. Now it’s about whose Maduro’s MOTHER is? No matter how pertinent it is to law, it’s still politically farcical an argument. People who are not close to this are going to roll their eyes and assume that the opposition has nothing of importance to say anymore.

        • caring about his illegal-dictatorial dealings AND about his second nationality (WHICH MAKES HIS PRESIDENCY CONSTITUTIONALLY ILLEGITIMATE) are issues that are most definitely NOT mutually exclusive!!

          In fact, COMPOUNDED, they make Maduro less and less and less entitled to remain as our president

          In most countries, especially the democratic ones, having a foreign president is completely unheard of!! We are trying to become like the democratic nations that function! This one issue matters AS WELL.

          Just because the law is not something that has been followed, DOES NOT MEAN that it shouldn’t!

          And like you said the CHAVISTA constitution IS in fact, more CUT AND DRY, the matter is absolutely cristal clear! Please concentrate on the emphasis that it came to be clearer due to el mismísimo Chavez, padre del burro!

          The interest about his nationality is by no mean sudden, new, farcical nor xenophobic (it wouldn’t matter which nationality he had, even he was german, gringo, peruano or whatever, having more that one nationality means that according to the CONSTITUTION DE CHAVEZ, MADURO CANNOT BE OUR PRESIDENT

          compound, compound and compound!!

          • What is ironic is that the Chavista constitution, as you put it, was probably trying to get rid of the Ivy league guys in the opposition from running for president, the green-card holders, I have no doubt that the STJ would have denied all of them, but they end up shooting themselves in the foot because Maduro’s nationality (ies) is a mess. That, if the left-wing faction in the MUD doesn’t backstab behind the scenes, what has been a hard thing to avoid for years.

            Besides, as it happened with Obama, the issue is NOT the birthplace per se, but the FORGED/LACK of proper documentation that would entitle the person to run for president.

            But in one thing I give reason to Emiliana, if the Americans were able to swallow all that, why the Venezuelans can’t?

          • Marc the irony is what I meant to emphasize

            I called it chavista just because that is the constitution that they are not following, even though it was created by their beloved!

            & yeah what I was getting at was that his birthplace is not the issue, it would STILL be an issue if he was Finnish – the matter is the documentation

            (I am not too familiar with the Obama issue, but to me that one had some racist undertones – what I am saying here is that, if in fact the people who don’t like this nationality issue don’t like it because they think it is xenophobic, they are misunderstanding it – it is not a dislike nor hatred for the foreign but a desire to follow the constitution)

            so I think that questioning his legitimacy as a president not only on the grounds of his atrocious track record BUT ALSO on constitutional grounds is not a bad thing…

            I don’t think that doing the latter distracts from nor diminishes the former – together the reasons just pile and pile up…

          • Fabiola, Obama could be a blue-eyed person with milk white skin born in the heart of the US descending directly from the founding fathers themselves that all the accusations about his forged documents would still hold.

            There’s huge evidence that Obama showed forged documents, something that he had no reason to do given that he is a natural born citizen. Why did he do that? No one knows.

            Anyway, this story is still far from over, as the US is not a Banana Republic as the countries most of us here are from. Rest assured that we will still hear a lot about that, the Venezuelans exiled in North America wanting or not.

  4. It will be funny when in say, 10-20 years, Maduro flees to Colombia saying: “Yo no tengo nada que ver con esta merda de Venezuela, soy Colombiano! Siempre seré! Jódanse!”

    hahahaha!

  5. Well, I guess this ruling puts the issue to rest. I mean, surely they wouldn’t make this ruling, claiming that he was born in La Candelaria on November 23 1962, if it weren’t true, right? Because anyone could go to all public registries around that place in Caracas and verify whether Maduro’s birth certificate appears in one of the 1962 books. They wouldn’t dare to lie when it would be so easy to prove the are lying, would they?

    I mean, WOULD THEY?

  6. To me, of all the issues and failures of Nicolas Maduro to focus on, this one appears to me to be the most irrelevant and petty. Worse, it has elements of xenophobia and historic discrimination against Colombians. It may well be that my feelings are influenced by the “birther” controversy over Obama in the U.S., which I feel was a mistake that ultimately hurt conservatives in there. So, I am trying hard to look at this issue on its own merits, and I will grant that it has more merit on the face of it than the one in the U.S. However, I still am left feeling that the Opposition is trying ride the letter of the law and not the spirit on this issue. Frankly, I am FAR more concerned about the Cuban (Castro) influence on Maduro than I am about any Colombian influence, of which I see none.

    The bottom line is that one should pick their battles wisely, and I don’t see the wisdom in picking this issue to battle over. There are so many bigger and juicier targets to shoot at.

  7. At the low level, pueblo level, this hurts more that the real issues. Plus we can walk and chew gum at the same time, attack on several fronts.

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