The ruling party loses Parliament in democratic elections. As their only option to recover the lost power, they impose a constituyente with the goal of writing a new Constitution, even though the country never asked for it. The imposed election has record-low turnout and the government decides to lie about it, and then the company that designed the country’s current electoral system blows the whistle on the lie. The scandal that should’ve been unleashed by that accusation ends up buried by the discussion over whether parties should register for potential gubernatorial elections, while the imposed constituyente decides to run the country for the next two years and legislate on any matter and above any public institution. The government has spent many years blaming the consequences of its absurd decisions on a non-existent economic blockade and on a potential foreign intervention that has never been announced, until now, when an egotistical charlatan of the same ilk as their dead leader, rises to lead their enemy country, and one fine afternoon chooses to fulfill the government party’s wet dream: threatening them with a military intervention.

Marines in La Guaira

President Donald Trump said this Friday: “The people are suffering and dying. We have many options in Venezuela, including a possible military option if necessary.” Soon after, the spokesman for the Pentagon, Eric Pahon, said that they haven’t been issued any orders regarding Venezuela after Trump’s comments. But the damage is done: the PSUV has its golden prize, a potential American military intervention, el finado’s and Nicolás’s favorite argument to close ranks with their fanatics and even to ignore the broad international disregard for the ANC, adding it to individual sanctions against its officials. This happens just when vice-president Mike Pence is set to start his first formal tour in Latin America, keeping Venezuela as a matter to discuss in Colombia, Argentina, Chile and Panama, countries that also signed the Lima Declaration this weeks.

At a municipal checkpoint

Shortly after this, minister Vladimir Padrino López reported on Twitter that “the material and intellectual authors” of the assault on Fuerte Paramacay last August 6th, were captured, including their leader, Juan Caguaripano Scott, along with Yefferson García, the officer responsible for the weapons stolen from the fort. Promising an exemplary punishment for the captives, Padrino López forgot to explain that the detention took place not because of the Armed Forces’ special operation, which included a midnight raid in a house inhabited by elderly nuns, but because the fearless rebels ran into a municipal checkpoint.

Ratified

The ANC ratified National Electoral Council authorities in their posts, because they appeared before them “to pledge their subordinate to the all-powerful body.” CNE chief Tibisay Lucena remarked that the Electoral Branch will always side with voters (as it did with the recall referendum, eh?) and will loyally stand beside the Venezuelan people, adding that the ANC’s election meant a great “ideological and political [progress] for Venezuelan democracy.” She also gushed over the constituyentes and praised the body’s political model. She spoke of how political rights are being privileged, but she didn’t specified that only some citizens are entitled to them and much less explained her definitive role in this local apartheid.

Early elections

Perhaps the consequences of the economic collapse will be too hard in December or perhaps chavismo’s factions are starting to test the strength of their all-powerful assembly, but the fact is that Earle Herrera proposed an emergency motion to hold early gubernatorial elections in October. Delcy Rodríguez claimed that the proposal took the board by surprise and explained that these elections were delayed because of “the violence exercised by the opposition,” although in truth, back then the CNE said that they didn’t have enough funds to organize them. They proposed a discussion for their next session; meanwhile, they’ll gauge the impact on public dissident opinion, which will have to discuss about the impossibility of holding primaries, which means candidates will have to be chosen by consensus, as the ANC formalizes the illegal request for certificates of good conduct or imposes any other obstacles to disable opponents.

Revenge

Imposed prosecutor general Tarek William Saab announced that he’ll reopen the investigations made by Luisa Ortega Díaz into violence during protests, with new cases that, according to him, were ignored by the previous occupant, adding that he’s found serious mistakes in those investigations. The Nonebudsman will now open criminal investigations on environmental damages (trees cut down to make barricades); and on the “horrible use” of children in opposition protests (they look so sweet in government events,) as well as hate crimes. He also announced the creation of a commission to cleanse the Prosecutor’s Office, meaning that he’ll fire any employee who remains loyal to the previous administration and mentioned that they’re reviewing 72 proceedings against civilians before military tribunals, although NGO Foro Penal has denounced that 626 civilians have been subjected to this injustice.

Abroad

Yesterday, the UN Special Rapporteur for Human Rights and international sanctions, Idriss Jazairy, urged countries not to impose restrictive measures on Venezuela as they would only worsen the situation. The UN Commission against Torture will request the government for a meeting in Geneva to discuss the country’s declining situation and an urgent monitoring report on accusations of human rights violations. Argentine president Mauricio Macri signed a decree to invalidate the Collar of the Order of the Liberator San Martín that Cristina Kirschner granted Nicolás back in 2013, for disrespecting human rights and democratic order. Peru’s Foreign Ministry said that it decided to expel the Venezuelan ambassador Diego Alfredo Molera Bellavia. Russia uses its position as Venezuela’s lender to leverage more control over our oil reserves, PDVSA has offered Rosneft a place in nine of the most prolific oil projects. Meanwhile, international reserves marked a new low on August 8th, reaching $9,9 billion, a drop of 9.7% in 2017 and of 19.3% compared with August 8th, 2016.

Gabriel García Márquez would have to admit the severe limitations of his magical realism to describe chavismo’s accomplishments in Venezuela. While the ruling clique masturbates to the image of marines that will never make it to La Guaira, the rest of the inhabitants of this amplified Macondo can tell our North American peers a lot of stories about the danger posed by a “leader” such as the one they now suffer. And on it goes.

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147 COMMENTS

  1. It is not the same to make use of generic anti-imperialist propaganda, than to have to face a real military threat by the most powerful army in the world. My point is that after the threat Maduro will actually tone it down because he is not half as dumb as most people think he is. He has proven to be a strong adversary, a good negotiator, and more capable than us in many respects. So why should be impose self-censorship among ourselves? The truth is that a US military intervention, if it happens, solves more problems than it causes, and we should support it. But there is problem: Our politicians´s lack of will to form government. If our AN is not willing to govern, but actually prefers to have Maduro as president, then we are screwed. It is not a lie or an exageration when I say that the only thing holding Maduro in power is MUD.

    • Maduro is as dumb as they come. Raul Castro isn’t as dumb but his long experience at this dictatorship business what makes the regime endure.
      If they were smart, they would have avoided this economic disaster and still manage to remain popular with more than half of population.

      You have to be really dumb to believe in Marxism-Lenism or Chavism as a model for prosperity.

      People have had unreasonable expectation for what the MUD or anybody in this situation can achieve.
      They have made mistakes but are certainly not the enemy. Remember that they were the ones who organized the street protest and the 16J, essentials to arrive where we are now.

      • If they don’ t support the military intervention, nor they form a government, and they decide to participate in rigged inconsecuential regional elections instead, then they can be pretty accurately called traitors.

  2. Wow, Naky so let me get this straight. Ok so sanctions are not possible because will negatively affect people, fine, understandable.
    But also it is obvious you are oppose to a military intervention, are you?
    So how in the F@HDFVJ !!!!!!!! world you think we will get rid of a 2 decade old Marxist-Cuban dictatorship red army and all ?!?!?

    Of course you don’t know and apparently don’t care either, since you are more concerned about Trump’s character than actual policy that would finally put an end to this nightmare.

    Ya know, I sometimes want to give up by finally admitting that many Venezuelans deserve this tragedy!!

      • It is surprising, but not as bad as some liberal Hollywood types who live in unbelievably huge and expensive mansions, have no excuses (such as living in a socialist hell), yet supported Chavez – and now can only be heard blaming President Trump. Pero si, Naky se equivoca, hablando asi acerca de President Trump. Living in Venezuela, food supply is minimal, inflation is 700% (?who knows?), and if you do find some food, you may have it stolen from you before you get it home. The pressures must be enormous.

      • P.S. The South American governments who have come out “rebuking” the U.S. statement surprise me a lot more. I’m less willing to forget that. My grand weakness in life is women – my rationality goes right out the window. Otherwise, I am perfectly sane!

    • Fundamentally, deep down, she knows that whatever Trump and his puppet opposition does will be worse for Venezuela. Whatever is wrong in Venezuela… a neo-liberal reich wing solution will not make anything better or solve anything, just add to the misery and exploration.

      • Judi Lynn—just wanted to thank you for coming back again and again. I no longer look like the least informed commenter on the board.

        Eliminating price controls, currency control, fighting crime and accepting humanitarian aide can hardly be classified as neo-liberal or right-wing.

  3. Wow, the anti-Trumpism of the editorial board at CCS Chronicles never ceases to amaze me!!! If Hillary was Prez, you all might be singing a different tune.

    Nevertheless lets not forget that 85% of the country is against this regime. The bitter-enders who actually believe in this bullshit economic war, socialismo o muerte, and the “Yankee go home” crowd are well in the minority now. Never forget that!!!

    If it was 50/50 or 40/60 you might have an argument, but we are past the point of no return right now and the people will accept change no matter how that change comes. 30J symbolized the death of this bullshit revolution and very few people believe in this anymore. Sorry we are in 2017, not 2004.

    The people of Venezuela will not rally around Maduro, Diosdado, Padrino if there was an international humanitarian intervention. And by the looks of it, the people in the comment section CCS Crhonicles have a way better idea of how this is shaking out. That is, what is in the works is a regional alliance backed by the USA and there are plenty of countries who want to see this regime fall because it would be the fall of the Foro de Sao Paulo and the death of armed revolutionary movements in Latin America.

    These guys need to be hit by all sides now, and yes, a little bit of gunboat diplomacy from El Imperio helps at this point– not hurts.

    So Naky, what is your solution: more marchitas and wait for the MUD to do something?

    About the only thing anti-Trumpers can say that has any validity at this point is: “hey, these guys will be broke by October. War hawks, just wait, they will collapse under their own weight.”

    The response to this is: “Yes, we all hope so and it is very possible. However, a looming humanitarian intervention has the Venezuelan military shaking in their boots and we should see more defections because of this. Furthermore, the pressure on the military will only increase as this government cannot pay everybody off and they have to put more money (which they dont have) into the military if there is a looming international humanitarian intervention…Please Trump, keep up the gunboat diplomacy!!! Whether it is a bluff or not, this is the only way you can deal with gangsters like this.”

    • 100% with guacha here.
      Trump would be doing the right thing (the only option left actually) with an intervention and if Hillary was in power I am sure that she would have done the same thing except slower allowing for diplomacy BS first.
      All Venezuelans should be grateful and supporting Trump on this regardless if you like his persona or not.

      • Toro, tell me, when the gringos invade and successfully install a friendly puppet regime, which will take what- a month, two months? ten thousand marines? a hundred thousand if you want to secure places like Barinas?- half a trillion dollars?- do they go the de-Bathification route, or do they invite the chavistas on board to help keep the peace and rebuild the economy? How do they sell the lifting of price controls on the populace? With Trump vodka? I’m just wondering about these things. Will this be parallel with the war with North Korea, or as an alternative? What would voters in rural Michigan prefer? How will this affect NAFTA talks with Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador who wins on an anti Trump, anti American platform by a landslide while Venezuela is being bombed by gringos?

        The problem with supporting what Trump has just done is that while his heart may be in the right place (to indulge the fantasy that this is why he is so concerned), he is just making the situation worse and handing the regime a lifeline with his obvious and stupid bluffing.

          • María, I’ll assume that means you’re for a de-Bathification strategy. As you apparently see no distinction between a liberal and a chavista, I’m assuming you’ll have some gringo contractors lined up to run things for a while, and something to keep the de-Bathified liberal-chavista public servants occupied with while the necessary harsh economic adjustment is imposed by the puppet transitionary regime.

        • Canucklehead, if the MUD was actually doing their job a transition government would already be in place. Regardless that can be done pretty quick, and perhaps will be done before any humanitarian intervention. Thus your “puppet government” hypothesis is already blown out of the water.

          Secondly, if you are going to do this right, you would get coalition soldiers to do the main invasion and the peace keeping thereafter. You would probably only need special forces and a few marines to secure the supply lines. The vast majority of peacekeeping force would be from coalition members. In all reality, drones and stealth bombers would do most of the work as far as eliminating any FANB armored units and coalition forces (aided by US special forces) will mop up.

          As far as debathification, YES, you will need to purge the bitter enders. They are scum who destroyed Venezuela and they need to pay a heavy price. If you are in Venezuela right now, you would know we want JUSTICE above all else. However you do not “debathify” your public employees or FANB that refuse to fight for the regime.

          For lifting economic controls, that is the job of the transition gov, not the gringos, and the gov will take the blame for that.

          This is not a lifeline to the regime. Read my post above, we are in 2017 not 2004. People do not believe their bullshit anymore. Only 5-10% believe in Chavismo conspiracy theories, and that is being generous.

        • You and I do not know if Trump is bluffing. Likewise the Venezuelan soldier does not know if Trump is bluffing.
          Maduro and company are praying that Trump is bluffing.
          It is being reported that Maduro went so far as to call the White House and asked to speak to Trump. Maduro may not think that Trump is bluffing.
          By the way, his call was refused.
          How many soldiers do think will be willing to die for a regime that gives them toilet paper and CLAP bags while the big wigs loot the country?
          The certainty that the US or a US led international force will be intervening, may be enough to collapse the government without a shot being fired. There most likely will be a very chaotic and rapid collapse of this regime as everyone tries to save themselves.
          I believe that the pieces are falling into place for some type of intervention.
          The Lima declaration.
          VP Pence visiting 4 nations that support the Lima declaration.
          The condemnation of the regime by many of the world’s democracies and human rights institutions.
          International drug smuggling.
          The Hezbollah connection and now Hezbollah’s endorsement of Al-Assami which creates an environment for terrorists to operate within the Americas and is a security issue for many countries.
          The usurpation of democracy and imposition of a totalitarian state against the stated goals of the OAS and the OAS charter.
          The ongoing humanitarian crisis that has the possibility of overwhelming neighboring countries with refugees. The destabilizing effects an ensuing refugee crisis will have on the region.
          The humanitarian crisis does not lend itself to a wait and see attitude. As conditions deteriorate daily, the sense of urgency will only increase.
          Trump is anti Communist and anti Castro. The big picture here is stopping Venezuelan support for the Castro regime and removing Cuba’s destabilizing effects from the hemisphere.
          The more the administration puts the spotlight on Venezuela, the more the media will report about the conditions in Venezuela. The more people become aware of the humanitarian and political crisis, the more support intervention will accumulate.
          These things have a way of getting a life of their own.
          The countries of the region are looking to the US to intervene. The US desires a stable democratic hemisphere that is free of Russian and Chinese influence.

          • John, we know Maduro knows Trump is bluffing because Maduro did not back off an iota in the face of Trump’s last, only slightly less ridiculously improvised, badly and improbably timed and empty threat of economic sanctions.

          • Canucklehead, you do not know to a decent percentage wether Maduro knows Trump is bluffing, or wether indeed Trump is bluffing.
            The optics of this are not to be confused with the Bush doctrine nor Obama and Clintons do nothing doctrine. From a personalistic , bombastic and card shark at the table perspective, i do not believe Trumps persona nor modus operandi includes bluff….i distinctly feel that conversely he wants his ‘ bluff ‘ called to allow him to shape the geopolitical and battle space environment.
            From a militaristic perspective the dye is caste with regard the outcome of military operations.
            You talk of a de-ba’thification process, well im not sure that the vacuum created, if indeed it happened, would be difficult to fill as i have not witnessed great governance in the last 10 years i have lived here.
            Iraq was not the same situation as we have here, and i talk from being in the invasion myself, do not confuse apples and pears it only confuses an allready fluid environment further.
            John as usual you have a true grasp of the narrative here. To that end it is strange as has been noted earlier, that the more accurate perspective on this topic comes from those not associated to CCs.
            From an editorial standpoint that is as Trump would say is ‘ sad ‘
            ‘ Alea iacta este ‘

          • Everyone with a little knowledge of how the U.S. works know Trump is bluffing and that includes the Cubans and their Bananazuelan puppets. However, they are worried because Trump is projecting and this means that the subject has been broached. OTOH, we are not there yet. These things take time and there’s a big hurdle next year with elections in Colombia and Brazil. 18 months at a minimum and that’s a big if.

        • The Maduro regime reputation is so badly damaged that nobody in the right mind would mistake the intervention for a abusive invasion.
          Once the situation is under control and people start seeing and feeling the difference with safety on the streets, food and medicine, the economy back on track and democracy finally reinstated, i doubt there would be complainers.
          The majority now opposes the regime so I don’t see what would be the problem. The major issue that remains unanswered is how loyal the rank-&-file from the armed forces are to Chavismo, because those are the ones that ultimately back any regime. For that a total dismiss and formation of a new armed forces would be needed and will take several months if not a year or so and this is what the US has experience with Irak and Afghanistan.

        • There is no way Trump will commit the US military. That is pure fantasy. But for him to suggest it, shows the chavistas, that the US is taking the situation seriously.

          WHEN, the protests re-start, and the things get nasty Maudro et al, will think twice before slaughtering the opposition. He may still, he probably will, but Noriega’s jail cell in Miami, will be in his dreams

          • “When the protests re-start…”–The MUD cut the protesters off at the knees, the ANC will approve 15-25 years military/common prison for those instigating major protests, 130 dead largely young cardboard-shielding protesting youths were left hanging out to dry. The jailing/torture/slaughter will continue on steroids. What’s left is small-scale guerrilla resistance and hope that the U.S.will save Venezuela’s sorry ass.

          • Protests will start once again because the reasons behind them are still there: The regime’s still a dictatorship that’s controlling the people through hunger, disease and crime and some people simply can’t take it anymore.

            Yes, the MUD is doing its worse to turn this into 2014 all over again, what is left is to show their highest heads sitting in the diálogos burundangueros at the ANC while they receive their good behavior letters.

          • Only 1m showed up (in Las Mercedes) at “La Gran Marcha De Caracas” called by the MUD for last Saturday; few(er) will show up once the ANC approves 15-25 yrs. prison for protesting. The MUD killed the street/Oppo in general, and the ANC will bury it….

  4. Really???? You’re literally worse then Henri Falcon.

    Trump’s the madman that Venezuela needs right now.

    You all sound like the international left with their bullshit idealistic arguments instead of practical what-to-do-now ones.

    Cabello is head of one of world’s largest cartels and El Assiami is connected to Jamas and has given Venezuelan passport to terrorists.

    The opposition better moving because military imtervention is starting to look like the only way pit.

    • Is Diosdado among the sanctioned regime officials?? , someone mentioned that he is not , sounds strange, he is mentioned as involved in drug trafficking and is vociferous in his attack of the enemies of the regime ……what gives ??

      • Name Address Type Program(s) List
        HARINGHTON PADRON, Katherine Nayarith Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        BENAVIDES TORRES, Antonio Jose Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        NOGUERA PIETRI, Justo Jose Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        GONZALEZ LOPEZ, Gustavo Enrique Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        VIVAS LANDINO, Miguel Alcides Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        BERNAL MARTINEZ, Manuel Gregorio Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        PEREZ URDANETA, Manuel Eduardo Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        MORENO PEREZ, Maikel Jose Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        MENDOZA JOVER, Juan Jose Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        DELGADO ROSALES, Arcadio de Jesus Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        GUTIERREZ ALVARADO, Gladys Maria Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        ZULETA DE MERCHAN, Carmen Auxiliadora Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        DAMIANI BUSTILLOS, Luis Fernando Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        SUAREZ ANDERSON, Lourdes Benicia Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        ORTEGA RIOS, Calixto Antonio Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        ALBISINNI SERRANO, Rocco Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        FLEMING CABRERA, Alejandro Antonio Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        MALPICA FLORES, Carlos Erik Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        ZERPA DELGADO, Simon Alejandro Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        REVEROL TORRES, Nestor Luis Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        JAUA MILANO, Elias Jose Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        GARCIA DUQUE, Franklin Horacio Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        SAAB HALABI, Tarek William Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        LUCENA RAMIREZ, Tibisay El Recreo Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        SUAREZ CHOURIO, Jesus Rafael Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        RIVERO MARCANO, Sergio Jose Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        VARELA RANGEL, Maria Iris Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        PEREZ AMPUEDA, Carlos Alfredo Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        MADURO MOROS, Nicolas Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        AMELIACH ORTA, Francisco Jose Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        CHAVEZ FRIAS, Adan Coromoto Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        D’AMELIO CARDIET, Tania Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        LUGO ARMAS, Bladimir Humberto Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        FARIAS PENA, Erika del Valle Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        MELENDEZ RIVAS, Carmen Teresa Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        VIVAS VELASCO, Ramon Dario Individual VENEZUELA SDN
        ESCARRA MALAVE, Hermann Eduardo Individual VENEZUELA SDN

        Source → https://sanctionssearch.ofac.treas.gov/

  5. I want this regime gone by any means.
    I am absolutely baffled by the lack of resistance by individual citizens. How can you let these people kill your children? How can you watch your family starve and do nothing?
    Political solutions have been attempted and have failed. Relying on your politicians is an effort in futility.
    It is long past time for the people to say enough is enough.. Any act of defiance is better than doing nothing.
    The regime has counted on the MUD to squabble among themselves and act like politicians instead of patriots. Sadly the MUD has lived down to expectations.
    The people need to do everything possible to destroy the regime and the people that oppress you.

    • Only the youth in Venezuela can save it. the adults have been brainwashed.
      Destruction, blood, and pain, before the possibility of a re-birth

    • There is no organization for effective resistance. By allowing political opposition, the regime has apparently nullified the need for armed opposition.

      Pretty much everyone would rather see a political solution than a military or paramilitary solution. Such a political solution has been “just out of reach” – the relatively close presidential election of 2012, the very close presidential election of 2013, the AN election of 2015, the recall referendum. The opposition has won victories in local and state elections.

      All this has diverted the opposition from any plan or preparation for armed resistance. The result is that the people are now helpless before the violence of the regime, now that the political path is explicitly closed.

      • There was never a Political solution after the forced removal of Chavez in 2002 which failed because of lack of international support and some people underestimating the problem at that time. The Chavizmo project was never democratic from the very beginning, but they had to keep appearance while they consolidated power.

  6. The best possible scenario right now for the regime is to have an American president, especially one widely reviled by latam voters,make bombastic threats of military intervention, while an actual intervention is nowhere near happening.

    This consolidates dissenter chavistas around the leadership, gives them something tangible to point at in terms of imperio’s meddling, makes it harder for other Latam counties to start to put together a military coalition (since it will be seen as led by the imperio and them like toadies), and gives weary citizens false hope that the marines will be here any day now.

    What a gift for Maduro and his cronies, goading trump was incredibly easy. Hey,at least trump got to sound tough, though.

    Between this and mud fighting each other about taking part in elections (!?!?!?!), the chavista bigwigs can hardly believe their luck.

    And I heard the rebel captain was captured…What a terrible week.

    • The intervention will happen, because is the only realistic option left except for a belated and distrusted Bolivarian armed forces uprising to oust Maduro but only to put Padrino or Diosdado as head of state.

      The US military intervention will need to happen because it won’t be enough to remove Maduro but an entire Marxist regime backed by a red army roja rojita, SEBIM, GNB, etc

      A US military intervention will be needed because we can’t trust in the chavistas armed forces to restore democracy so we’ll need an occupation army to transition peacefully back to Democracy.

      A US military intervention will happen because would be relatively fast and easy compared to other intervetion in the middle east, asia, africa, etc

      The US military intervention will happen because in the end the US won’t allow anymore the spreading of Cuban-Marxism to the rest of Latam and the hemisphere

  7. I would like to see a troop buildup along the Colombian border of Colombian/US troops. the Regime would be forced to deploy resources to the border leaving CCS less protected. Two fronts to be defended. Unsustainable. Then VZ patriots would have a chance.

  8. Guacha/TV/et. al., right on. Venezuelans have PROVEN that they are incapable of mopping up their own arroz con mango, unless you believe that the Oppo’s Ccs. grand march called for today, that could only arrive at one of East Ccs. last few Oppo strongholds in Las Mercedes’s Plaza Alfredo Sadel because of lack of marchers, was a success. The Oppo MUD, como Chacumbele, se mato.

  9. Macondo was a little town, where their inhabitants were subdued under a tyrannical regime for more than 70 years, forced to whore out their underage daughters and sons to the russian, chinese and iranian tourists for a handful of scraps, and very often they didn’t even get paid at all, all because Macondo’s people was considered to be “subhuman garbage” even by their own rulers.

    The only vestiges of any resistance vanished long ago, they never acted out of an irrational fear to be acknowledged as “violent coupsters” and thus not be recognized as an actual governemt after the regime’s fall, and they stayed acting that way during 30 years, while the regime’s cronies laughed their asses off as they stuffed themselves with the most expensive delicacies the money could buy, while the people starved to death.

    • But, they had a black gooey substance oozing from the ground which they were able to use to keep their lanterns lit at night.

      • Lanterns were reserved only to be used by the oligarchy in Macondo, the people had no use for such a decadent capitalist luxury as “light in the night”.

        As the immortal galactic and colonoscopic double-fudge supreme general-commander said once: “You don’t need a lantern, just open your eyes really wide when you’re in the dark”

        And the people in Macondo cheered the selflessness of their rulers by them taking the burden of enduring such abomination as using lanterns, swiftly deflecting any comment with “you say that just because you’re envious”

  10. Given status of things in Venezuela, Trump’s threat won’t change much of anything. Most Venezuelans oppose the regime anyway. The regime’s base never needed any substance for the anti-American conspiracy theory. Then again, very debatable if Trump will actually do anything. The back-and-forth on this point often reflects internal American political point-scoring, not really relevant to Venezuela’s welfare.

    Now, Trump himself is unpredictable, but I have a certain acquaintance with Americans. They won’t support a military intervention unless Venezuelans start it first. The most that would get support under current conditions is economic sanctions, but getting actually biting ones could use opposition making the case for them.

    • Of course is just the idiot babbling about. Of course there is not going to be any deployment of US troops. What the fuck would be the rationale for that.

      Just by his stupid necessity to play tough man when he doesnt know fuck about anything, he has just delivered a propaganda coup directly to the hands of Maduro and company. One thing that could have been good, the Pence visit to the region (I hate Pence too, but at least that is the correct, professional, mature way to do stuff – go, talk with the region leaders, see what you can get them to agree about, what help would they need, etc…) is now useless, as Cretin In Chief goes again off script because he needs to play macho man.

      • One thing struck me about Trumps statements , he mentioned something that few people note , how close Venezuela is to the US , this is not a far off middle east or far east country , but the US back yard , very close to all those bases in and about Pto Rico , just a couple of hours away really ……, culturally we are not that different , we are part of the western hemisphere …..have imbibed its values for practically the whole of our historical life ( even if less succesfully) , if Cuba had been in southern africa wonder what kind of posture the US govt would have adopted towards the Castros……,

    • As an American, I think I have a better acquaintance with them than you. And we’ll support lots of things that you wouldn’t predict.

      VZ already “started it first,” as you claim is the only way Americans will support an invasion. I think you’re kind of naive about what’s going on in the states under Trump these days:

      He could invent a cure for cancer, bring the unemployment rate to zero, and get the gas prices down to 25 cents a gallon–and there will be those idiots, MANY of those idiots, who will complain:

      “How come he didn’t get this all done LAST month?”

      If you think Trump gives a crap about public opinion, I assure you in the most concrete way possible…no.

      With Trump, the proof is in the pudding. He only cares about results. And foreign policy is rarely, initially, based on public opinion. (After Pearl Harbor, we learned our lesson here. We should have been in the fight 2 years earlier.)

      Thankfully, in modern times, the U.S. has interpreted the Constitution as to give the president wide latitude in calling forces to action, A declaration of war, approved by Congress, is no longer required to go into battle.

      • When I wrote “Americans won’t support military intervention unless Venezuelans start it first”, I don’t mean VZ attacking the US (that’s too crazy even for our reality), more like ‘Venezuelans fighting against the regime”. Americans find it difficult to help people who don’t appear to try to help themselves especially when there appears to be a real cost for the US. The cries will be ‘why send our sons to die in VZ, if Venezuelans aren’t willing to fight’.

        Sanctions are much easier to apply though, since the effect on US is relatively small. And in the event that there’s actual willingness to go as far as military intervention – sanctions probably worth a shot anyway before trying the big guns. That said, I don’t expect either scenario. While I did make an allowance for Trump being unpredictable, I suspect VZ is not on the top of his mind.

  11. Naky, and for various other fellow travelers on this board, fear not, for, “Venezuela no es amenaza, es esperanza.” As IR said today in the ANC, Venezuela is the Stalingrad of Revolutionary hope in the world/SA, and other such babble.

  12. As is the norm for the 21st century the writing on the Caracas Chronicles is highly subjective.
    An emotional outburst is understandable given the living conditions many of the contributors
    are forced to suffer. Hard to give the same amount of slack to those that burned their
    draft card and skeedaddled out of Venezuela. Regarding Donald Trump, he is
    President of the United States, and unless you live and pay taxes here he is not
    your problem, don’t create all that negative karma over something where you are
    totally powerless.

  13. Words like this cause me to fear that America seems determined to repeat the same mistakes it made in the 60s with the Cubans. Threatening war gives ammunition to the dictatorship “proof” of the colossus of the north’s hostile intentions. It also gives the dictator an excuse to clamp down on civil society – the opposition could be a CIA backed fifth coulomn of traitors. Loose words run the risk of pushing domestic fence sitters into the dictator’s camp. It can drive a wedge into the lose anti-Maduro coalition that formed amongst regional partners. Caribbean, South and Central American politics are sensitive to the suggestion of American backed regime change; results have often been tragic.

    I kind of feel that George W. Bush unwittingly played into the role of Hugo’s foil especially after pursuing regime change in Iraq. Obama was better at avoiding the same trap set by Hugo and Nick, although Nick did get a boost after the OFAC thing. I hope that Trump avoids that trap (although given how he fell straight into the Khan family and Miss Universe ones…). We have to keep the coalition strong to keep up the pressure on the regime. I would take these steps:
    1. Go all in on support for Colombia’s peace process. Maduro will try to exploit instability where it is. Do not let him. It’s not perfect but we can’t afford a renewed FARC. It also will strengthen Colombia’s hand and make Santos seem more of a statesman.
    2. Assure, in confidence, to the coalition SOUTHCOM’s support short of boots, ships, or war planes. This must be seen as a Latin American led effort not one by the “empire.”
    3. Step up the propaganda and influence game. TeleSur is a serious asset with basically nothing to counter it.
    4. Offer the security services incentives to side with the ANC. Right now they have everything to lose and nothing to gain. Let them keep their pensions and a portion of their repatriated assets as long as they agree to support a transition to democracy.
    5. Save the oil sanctions or military commitments if things get really bad. I’m talking about civilian massacres, death squads, use of lethal chemical weapons, or an attackagainst Guyana. Make it so that Nick can’t justify his actions and he hangs him self with his own lies.
    6. Keep an open phone and open wallet in case Nick wants to talk. Don’t give him an excuse to close the US Embassy. We don’t want some future State Department employees to dust off the pictures of Trump and Tillerson like the one who dusted off the photos of JFK and Dean Rusk in Havana.

    Lose invasions or embargo talks runs the risk of repeating the Cuban mistakes which entrenched that dictator. Yes, the Castros are mainly responsible for the suffering but America didn’t help its own case either.

    • “I kind of feel that George W. Bush unwittingly played into the role of Hugo’s foil especially after pursuing regime change in Iraq. Obama was better at avoiding the same trap set by Hugo and Nick”

      Bush’s invasion to Irak was made with the explicit purpose of cranking up the oil prices, which was what happened, and unwittingly gave chavismo exactly what they needed to survive: Dollars by trillions.

      “Lose invasions or embargo talks runs the risk of repeating the Cuban mistakes which entrenched that dictator. Yes, the Castros are mainly responsible for the suffering but America didn’t help its own case either.”

      The only reason the castrista regime stood for as long as it has done is because USA agreed with the URSS to leave the cuban regime completely untouched and unpunished as part of the deal to remove the nukes that were stationed in Cuba.

  14. While I don’t give a rat’s ass who topples Maduro, it would be so sweet if Trump ultimately got the credit. I image the left-of-center CC editorial staff and a certain Canadian would rather swallow a bad clam.

    • As it is right now, the liberal Venezuelan opposition and the brainless canadiens are chewing their nails raw thinking, WTF!!!?

    • At least Canadians can still get a clam, fresh or bad.

      It’s so easy for some armchair strategists…commenting comfortably from OTHER countries…to argue against U.S. intervention because it’s “bad.”

      When it gets clearer, day by day, that it’s the only solution.

      Do people actually believe, in their ignorance or anti-Yankee bias, that the U.S. would get militarily involved here “for the hell of it?” That we would risk the lives of our young soldiers just to “take over” Venezuela? That we’re doing it to STEAL the oil, which we hardly even need these days anyway?

      I hope that most Venezuelans see the possibility as an encouraging sign, that at least SOMEONE would stand up for them.

    • There is a decent chance the Maduro regime will fall as a result of a combination of economic collapse and popular pressure. If Trump takes credit for that, I would not be surprised but I would be more concerned about what happens next, which is where friendly countries will need to step up, smartly and quickly.

  15. Latin American countries are condemning Trump offer of military action so it looks like, for now, it will be

    the slower poison, economic sanctions till the Chavistas cant find ways to get money, the thing is, it will

    take a toll in the people and the country for that to happen, there still minerals in lands that chavistas will

    have no problem devastating in order to exploit it and get some money, the country will be a all you can

    eat buffet or Russia and China, maybe others, the sad thing is the streets are cold as ice, the resistent is

    no more than some young men with cardboard shields, politicians are jumping thru hoops for survival , and

    the ANC ready to do as their please, all this while there is less food day by day.

    • “Latin American countries are condemning Trump offer of military action so it looks like, for now, it will be ”

      Where? Source?

  16. “threatening them with a military intervention”? Ha!
    El Catire impone soluciones rectas y al grano.
    Don’t like interventions?
    Fire ‘n’Fury then. He doesn’t mince words –
    Clean up your shit, and he’ll stay out.
    Mad & Mud are vzla’s answer ? I DON’T THINK SO.

  17. There will be no US military intervention in Venezuela no matter what Trump says. And anyone who believes to the contrary is unfamiliar with public opinion in the US.

    • That would have been the case with your average politician, but this is Donald Trump. Anything is possible.

      It’s good chance to send a message to North Korea/Syria.

      Venezuela can be taken over in less then a week.

      • Unlike North Korea (nuclear weapons notwithstanding), Venezuela does not pose a threat to any US allies. Things could certainly get really ugly in Brazil and Colombia with an avalanche of refugees but nothing like what could actually take place in South Korea/Japan.

        An invasion may be successful in under a week, but controlling crime could be a mess in a country with the highest murder rate in the world and typical latin american levels of impunity. I do not remember Pres. Trump being very fond of the idea of nation building during the campaign, and that is exactly what this would be. Without the hostile forces attacking “peacekeepers”, true, but nation building none the less.

        • waltz, the problem is that you as many people new to the Venezuelan crisis are not aware of what is the real issue here. Venezuela is part of a network of criminal and radical marxists headed by Cuba who master plan is to take over Latam, on top of that these are radical anti-American anticapitalist antidemocratic forces besides many other issues. If you don’t see what is the problem here I can’t teach you geopolitics in a blog.

          • Except no American President will send in troops without getting a portion of the population behind his decision. Recent media reports aside, the American public has no clue what is going on in Venezuela. If polled, I would bet less than five percent could find Venezuela on a map, much less name or pick Muduro out of a line-up card nor would they believe that Cuba has any influence.

            Cuba is not viewed as a threat in the US, it is thought of in the same vein as Haiti. This is how a small Cuban population can dictate policy, no one cares or is concerned. Compare this to the threat of North Korea where the US has major allies in South Korea/Japan as well as a large number of troops stationed.

            By the way, I would have no problem with Pres. Trump deciding to oust Maduro et al. if other countries followed a day later. The US can be the “policeman” of the world in this situation but it should not be the warden and prison guards to deal with the crime, insecurity, impunity and nation building. Get others in the region to take on this responsibility.

          • “This is how a small Cuban population can dictate policy, no one cares or is concerned.”

            USA agreed with the URSS to NEVER do anything to disturb the castrista regime in Cuba as part of the deal to withdraw the nukes that were stationed in the island.

        • Ulamog—really, so an agreement that goes back to before I was born still governs US policy towards Cuba? The USSR is now defunct and my current President is obligated to oblige by an agreement that was never ratified by the representative bodies of this country with a power that no longer exists. The real reason no one cares about Cuba here is that they equate it with Haiti. The regime in Cuba will die shortly after their benefactor regime in Venezuela breaths its last breathe. How long that takes to happen will be determined by others than me.

          • I like it when the clueless Americans chime in. Never say never again. Rember Urgent Fury and Just Cause, plenty of folks against and plenty of conspiracy theories. Off course the Powell Doctrine is harder to enforce in todays world and North Korea along with other hotspots will keep our eye off the ball but the hemisphere is our backyard and if anyone thinks they are going to move in, think again.

          • Yes, Waltz, an agreement that basically defused the potential World War 3 still governs the US policy towards Cuba, why do you even think that the “dry feet” law was in effect until the end of Obama’s term? That law was part of that policy towards Cuba if you didn’t know.

          • So the current Pres. of US, whose supporters claim he is unlike we have seen before, cares only about results not process. Has no need for NATO or NAFTA, agreements ratified by Congress, is somehow expected to live up to an “agreement” made over fifty years ago, with a superpower that no longer exists, that was not ratified. As well, this is the one agreement you expect him to respect and it just happens to be the one that most affects the things you care about. Please get real, either Pres. Trump is not who you thought he was going to be or you need to re-evaluate what inputs go into the making of American domestic/foreign policy.

          • “is somehow expected to live up to an “agreement” made over fifty years ago, with a superpower that no longer exists, that was not ratified.”

            The agreement was ratified, if you didn’t know. Also, the superpower still exists, it’s called RUSSIA, and it’s bossed by the same brand of imperialistic folks that took over many countries years ago (If you don’t believe that, just ask the Ukranians about Crimea or the syrians about “their” country)

            Also, he’s expected to live up to that argument SO FAR, you don’t know if Mr. Wig wakes up on the wrong side of the bed one of these days and points his cannons to the island.

            Look, dude, it’s really tempting to believe that fairy tale about how Cuba was a proud people that “stood up against the mean ebul empire through famine and poverty” and that all its ailments come from an imaginary embargo that stopped to be considered decades ago and that no one will ever pay attention because they’re too incapable to do anything, that the garbage2 are reality benders that cover the sky every noon to bring the night and create every single news in the world, or that the venezuelan people are rotten to the core and thus are doomed to waste their lives surviving from garbage and that Cuba had NOTHING to do with the destruction of Venezuela “because they’re so little and weak”

            It’s a very alluring story, just ask any leftie and they’ll spew that thread of lies, but the truth is there and you can’t change it, USA president can’t go changing agreements on the fly as shiabbe did and now madroga does, even agreements made decades ago, Cuba has been invading Venezuela since the 60s to take the oil, and now Venezuela is a colony of Cuba as they control ALL of the power in Venezuela.

            Russia can afford to lose Venezuela, the country doesn’t produce anything anymore and it would be too expensive to build the infrastructure to extract anything, so they know the country is a mere backyard to keep an outpost in this side of the world, Venezuela is expendable for Russia, but Cuba isn’t, because chavismo will fall first than castrismo.

            Russia can afford to lose a wasted country, but they simply won’t accept losing the oldest outpost in the western hemisphere which is Cuba.

          • Ulamog, I admit I could be wrong. Provide the Senate Bill number where this agreement was ratified and I will admit so. Other than that your rant is incoherent. As for your leftie comment, thanks but it does not apply. In the last election here in the US we had four terrible choices. Trump, a blowhard egomaniac; Stein, someone who questions the efficacy of vaccines: Mrs. Clinton, whose former Pres. husband told a black man to go to the back of the bus (paraphrasing) and Johnson(whom I voted for as the least of the terrible options); who did not know what a questioner was talking about when then asked about Allepo.

        • Sure, remember the referendum in 2009 to approve the Baraawe raid (Somalia), or more recently, Trump asking the people if they approved the Yakla raid (Yemen)?

          Americans voted massively for a military intervention in both cases, and the rest is history.

          Thank God US foreign policy is assisted by direct democracy, imagine if the commoners haven’t got a say in matters of national security, and only the well-versed handling classified documents provided by intelligence services could decide on the subject, we would be in deep waters!

          Trump will probably call for another referendum to hear average Americans if they think that the situation in Venezuelan can spin out of control or not, and how to deal accordingly! They will hear what the people have to say, even Batman! Then, and only then, Trump, Tillerson, Haley and Admiral Kurt Walter Tidd (US South Command) will know how to proceed.

        • Reagan didn’t ask the public on Grenada, nor Panama, nor did Kennedy on (disastrous) Bay of Pigs. I guess Batman IS deciding in Canada.

  18. Interesting that some of the same posters who have implied that Trump is a loose cannon and in over his head also KNOW that US military intervention will never happen.

    • Trump is not a madman, he is something more specific. A malignant narcissist. Hugo Chávez was one as well. These people are manipulators, liars and cowards. Your hopes are better placed in the people of Venezuela who have struggled heroically and continue to do so.

      • Why do Canadians channel their inferiority on the world stage into hatred for the U.S.?

        Seriously, you guys are just a few steps away from Chavismo yourself.

      • Right. Venezuelans had better pin their hopes on leaders Ramos Allup/Rosales/Falcon, even “Hora Cero” Guevara–they’ll grab their cardboard shields and go to battle slaughter again….

      • Oh, boy, it’s the whole “Trump = Chávez” thing all over again.

        Seriously, stop with that fallacy already, it’s annoying.

  19. Incredible how so many here will continue their suffering, rather than welcome and applaud the only possible route to salvation–U.S. military intervention.

    Is your hatred of anything gringo so deep that you would rather drown in the quicksand than grab the rope thrown to you by your neighbor from the north? Your own fucking CLOSE neighbors won’t even lift a finger to help you. Fuck, Santos practically changed Hugo’s diaper and powdered his ass.

    This attitude disgusts me, but what disgusts me more is how it’s so evidentiary of selfishness. People suffering terribly…kids dying in hospitals…and since YOU scumbags are still doing “okay,” relatively, then it’s still “Yankee go home!”

    • Brasil just said no to their military intervention, Santos, always culiudo, now has the FARC politically legal/well-financed to worry about. The balls are further south (Peru/Argentina/even little Paraguay), but too far away. Any LatAm participation would only be for show anyway, to help quell the Leftists (including CC eds.?) from screaming “Imperialist Pigs” too much, as the liberators thanklessly wade waist-deep into the Venezuelan arroz con mango mire in order to save the Region/Venezuela from themselves….

    • I borrowed this from somebody in facebook who summarized in Spanish(sorry) what you just wrote:

      “La dignidad vernácula reza más o menos así: “Prefiero continuar aplastado en el piso bajo la bota cubana y narco traficante en el cuello por 20 años más que permitir a los gringos insolentes que vengan a rescatarme”

      • Ah yes, dignidad vernácula, not the true dignity of patriots praying for the gringos to invade and save them. Brilliant.

        • People will look for what would work.

          In this case, becoming a gringo colony is what would work.

          Civilians will NEVER be able to oust chavismo for themselves with “peaceful means” without help.

          We’ve seen already what happens when a country is left to “solve their own problems”, and it’s called CUBA.

          • “In this case becoming a gringo colony is what would work”

            These are not the words of anybody I would ever want help from and you are no friend for saying it. There is a difference between concern and vanity.

            Venezuela had a very proud history before Chavismo and being your little playground fantasy is not the solution. Youre an ignoramus for even going there.

          • “Becoming a gringo colony” just means freedom to import supplies and fertilizers, medicines, start businesses, charge market prices for products, engage in free commerce, not worry about being imprisoned because you’re a mayor and basically just a law and order with minimum corruption. Of course not everyone is pernfict and neither are gringos, and sooner or later someone will develop a “Cabana Colony” (shudder) for gringos to retire in when they get old and only want to hang out with themselves speaking that awful English language and playing bridge instead of canasta, eating mozzarella sticks and … oh, shoot, sorry! I’ll stop.

            La vaina resulto precisamente porque los gringos no colonizaron en los 1970 y tal. Es que, bueno … se podria decir que nos apetece esa palabra.

          • Taro, dreaming about “keeping sovereignity” when Venezuela is now a mere cuban colony.

            “Very proud history before chavismo”, umhu, seems you haven’t read a book of Venezuelan history either.

            I don’t need the useless friendship of a delusional and dissociated person like you, in fact, people like you prove to be worse backstabbers than Starscream.

            Learn something about Venezuela first or staple your mouth shut.

    • Its a bit how the idea of Russian assistance into helping one political party gain an electoral advantage in the United States is an extremely offputting concept to many Americans.

      Venezuela is not your bitch.

  20. Trump did an amazing thing, surely not recognized by the leftists amongst us here.

    When Maduro called, Trump said, “No thanks–refuse the call. When he restores basic democracy, THEN we’ll talk.”

    Some of you guys learned nothing from Hitler.

    • Churchill said, in effect, “He who avoids/runs from “humiliation” now, will be sure to suffer it in the future”–sage words for the MUD gambling on Regionals, with 1/3 state governorships made ineligible for them by the CNE, 1/3 or so of their current Governors/Mayors judicially removed from office or inhabilitated politically, and their electoral base defrauded/diminished by the CNE/ANC fraud tacit acceptance fiasco….

  21. It’s worried me for some time that the Venezuelan cause to remove Maduro, a cause that has finally earned worldwide support despite heavy skepticism from commited leftists, is now turning into spank material for the American right for their own domestic entertainment.

    Venezuela is not your object lesson, or your plaything or your cudgel. Yeah, sure, the Venezuelan people can really use some help, but there’s a right way and wrong way to go about it.

    The absolute wrong way is to presume an entire country, even one in locked determination to remove Maduro, would be so welcoming of US boots on the ground. You keep making this damn mistake over and over again with different countries. Nobody wants your projection of power. It’s self serving, and antagonizes domestic politics in the target country more than you can imagine. It’s polarizing and unwelcome. This is a domestic problem that Venezuelans created that Venezuelans must now solve. This is a regional problem that regional powers must solve in a cooperative way so that what happens after Maduro is removed is sustainable and supported by ALL SIDES. Something that becomes impossible if it exists with the stench of unilateral aggression. Look at the situation you had with ISIS following Iraq, because the lack of legitimacy created such an unstable political climate.

    What the opposition needs is material support, not showboating. If you want to help, help not in a selfish way.

    • Right. The U.S. should send the Oppo leaders some Regional election materials/posters ASAP. The U.S. does NOT want to wade into Venezuela’s arroz con mango of its own making, nor does it care that Venezuela has become Castro’s bitch/whipping boy, and has even looked away as massive narco shipments have been given safe conduct through Venezuela with the U.S. as a major final destination, but the U.S.will NOT allow the spread of Castro-Communism and terrorism from Venezuela to its neighbors/rest of LA, which is an inevitable result of the current Venezuelan political/military miasma.

      • “…looked away as massive narco shipments have been given safe conduct through Venezuela with the U.S. as a major final destination…”

        The money produced by drug trafficking is proven to be used to finance terrorist groups such as Hezbollah.

        Government-backed drug trafficking should be considered an act of war.

    • Have to agree with Raul, Lorenzo. When i look up self-righteous in the dictionary, its Americans here presuming to lecture Venezuelans on gratitude.

      • I am confused. For months the big criticism was that Americans didn’t give a damn about Venezuela. “Couldn’t find it on a map.” And now we are using it for our own self-serving purposes? Showboating? Lecturing Venezuelans on gratitude? Give me a break!

        Look, for America, Venezuela is just a big problem. Another headache that we don’t need. This year immigrants from Venezuela seeking asylum in the US will exceed 40,000. More than from any other country, including even China. And for two decades we have put up with every kind of vitriol and hate speech you can imagine from Venezuela, and I kind of suspect most Venezuelans even today hate us.

        Now it is a failed country. And you know what? It will take massive American aid and massive American capital and American know-how and maybe even American lives to put the country back on it’s feet again. And all the while the ivory tower experts will be harping and criticizing everything we do and just hoping it all blows up in our face so they can lecture us again on how stupid we are.

        So maybe you could spare me the ugly American rhetoric. It’s a little early in the game, and believe me we have heard it all before. And high-minded talk like, “What the opposition needs is material support, not showboating,” and, “If you want to help, help not in a selfish way.” What the hell does that mean?

        • What it means at its core is that Venezuelans here reject any USA influence in their future whatsoever (except of course dollars, as Raul noted).

          I agree!

          What loses me is the reflexive anti-American rhetoric in this post and sprinkled throughout comments. Last I checked we all wanted the same end: to rid Venezuela of Chavez/Madura/Cuba and all the misery associated with them *for the sake of the citizens Venezuela.* Toward that end, CC has done yoeman work on an English language blog that has captivated and inspired those who they–and the reliable Canadian–reject in every way (except the dollars that Raul noted).

          In an ideal world the onus would be 100% on the VZ citizens or her LAM neighbors. Hey, I’m convinced! By the same token if Trump wants to rattle a few cages with his blathering what harm can it do and –why do you care?

          • No, what it means is that venezuelan culture has a baseless and deeply ingrained hatred towards USA, planted into the people’s minds by the leftist-marxist-communist brainwashing.

          • No, what it means is that venezuelan culture has a baseless and deeply ingrained hatred towards USA, planted into the people’s minds by the leftist-marxist-communist brainwashing.

            The leftist brainwashing is there- no doubt about it. El Finado ramped it up a notch and found out it energized his base. But it was there before 1999. When I worked in Venezuela, I was amazed to meet people I met who had names like “Lenin.” Which means that a number of Venezuelans were hard-lefty enough to so name their children. Remember Carlos the Jackal?

            At the same time, courtesy of a century of oil production, a lot of US influences have embedded themselves within Venezuelan culture. Consider baseball.
            There have also been a fair number of Venezuela-USA marriages. I have my anecdotes, as do a number of other CC commenters.

            It might be more accurate to say that Venezuelan culture has a love-hate relationship with the USA.

      • Are you using the Marxist-Leninist dictionary? Their entry under “murder” is really different: “freedom for the worker”. The you look up “mass” and it says, “the greatest good”. Really very diverse in their assimilation of opposing viewpoints.

    • I think Caracas Chronicles is starting to attract a different audience. One that doesn’t have direct ties to Venezuela, because I can’t imagine anybody who did would have such a disrespectful view towards Venezuelans as you’ve expressed here, Lorenzo. But whatever. Your facts suck, and I’d be happy to unpack your distortions, but for the sake of clarity, I need to circle back on the main point here, which is what kind of help the US -can- provide that is actually valuable versus some alt right spank fantasy cartoon view of international relations.

      “Boots on the ground” is the idiot’s movie screen idea of what constitutes the only sole option of material support. And to be clear, Venezuelans value international attention at this moment (not just the United States, but yes. The US too). What is not valued is this dumb jingoistic America F*ck Yeah idea of what’s the end all be all of support: US troops making a ridiculously visible footprint inside Venezuela and uninstalling Maduro personally. Did you know you have a nation of 31 million people about ready to do it themselves with a little bit of assistance?

      Here’s what the United States CAN do (or continue to do if they’re already doing):

      (1) Offer intelligence assistance to the opposition and possible security options so that they’re harder to pick off.

      (2) Start the outside work to create a multipartite force using normal diplomatic channels such as OSA and even the mostly worthless UN if need be so that any invading army would be multinational and have the impremieur of diplomacy. Rather than looking like some American adventure / trophy and antagonizing regional interests for years to come. George Bush Sr did it, and it mostly worked. His mistake perhaps was not going after Saddam and kicking the can down the road. His son did the complete opposite, and it created ISIS, and gave the remaining Baathists in Syria a boost of legitimacy, which played into Russian hands.

      (3) Disrupt Maduro’s organization through covert means

      (4) Explore blocking all intra Cuban / Venezuelan trade. And by block I mean an actual blockade. That’s a visible offensive that would send a powerful message / deterrent and show Maduro that the US means business. It would also rob Cuba of its Venezuela interests. It would also give Trump supporters their juicy pork chop of visible “wow! We’re doin’ stuff…n’ stuff!”

      Maduro doesn’t need much of a push to be dislodged. Something as visible as sending in US troops (and lets be real — this is not a serious option that doesn’t go beyond POTUS tweets and would ever be supported by adults like McMaster) is a bridge too far. It would have immediate effect but leave bigger problems in its wake.

      Lastly, don’t come here as an ally and then say “Oh, Venezuelans are a big headache.” Respectfully, fuck you. If you want to help, listen instead of fantasize. People here are starving. You’re there just making lazy judgements.

  22. Lets look at the bright side, POTUS did us all a favor by broaching what is on everyone’s mine. What some consider taboo or sacrilegous. He got the monkey off his back and folks who want to cry foul, so be it. DT is entitled to say whatever he wants just like other world leaders. Big fucking deal.

    It’s the reactions that are more interesting and expose who is who.

    • Indeed, Neil. This continual lecturing to the converted grows stale and I’m inclined to agree with Ulamog as usual. A tendency so deeply ingrained in some becomes their reality and leaves utterly no room for human empathy.

  23. Not mentioned here is how an armed intervention can assumme many different forms and not always involve ‘boots in the ground’ which is what people assumme is the form the intervention will take , for example in the intervention against the Serbian govt during the Bosnia war , the intervention was limited to the targeted bombing of certain mostly military sites, same as happened in Libia ,the effect was tremendous .

    Venezuela is very exposed to air attacks , if just one ship were to be scuttled in the channel passage from lake maracaibo to the sea all oil traffic from lake maracaibo would stop……beside that all oil flowing from eastern venezuela is shipped from just a few terminals around Pt La Cruz , no one thinks armed intervention is desirable , but if nothing else works what are you going to do ………put a frown on your face and declare yourself incensed at what the regime is doing ……!!

    But even before any armed intervention is considered there are many other options that are seldom mentioned on the economic side , for example legally all US currency belongs to the Federal Govt which could just forbid its use in any venezuelan govt transactions ( they did it to cuba whose foreign trade could only be conducted in canadian dollars) , that would make the sale of Venezuelan crude exports very difficult , just a year ago no crude oil could be exported from the US , then they opened the door and Venezuela is buying US light crude to blend with its heavy crude production in order to be able to export it , a ban or restriction on the shipment of US Crude oil and refined products to Venezuela would force Pdvsa to have to buy that crude and refined products from much further away causing a logistical nightmare and an increased economic cost that would likely make the export of most venezuelan crude un economic, You could launch a US tax enquiry into Pdvsa and Citgos trading activities and probably find cause to impose sanctions and penalties on a number of their transactions …….the list is endless ……

    • a ban or restriction on the shipment of US Crude oil and refined products to Venezuela would force Pdvsa to have to buy that crude and refined products from much further away causing a logistical nightmare and an increased economic cost that would likely make the export of most venezuelan crude un economic, You could launch a US tax enquiry into Pdvsa and Citgos trading activities and probably find cause to impose sanctions and penalties on a number of their transactions …….the list is endless …

      The most recent monthly data informs us that the US imported 767,000 BOPD from Venezuela- about half of what it was in 2004. (In 2004, PDVSA informed the world that in five years, production would rise to 5 million BOPD. Oh well…) From 2015 on, the US has exported to Venezuela an average of 75,000 BOPD. As that is mostly used for 1) domestic gasoline supplies or to 2) dilute heavy oil, the consequences of being cut off from those 75,000 BOPD are rather large. Domestic tranquility is NOT assured by cutting off gasoline supplies. No dilution of heavy oil, no export, no export dollars. In terms of “bang for the buck,” cutting off US oil exports to Venezuela would definitely have a disproportionate effect.

      https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/hist/LeafHandler.ashx?n=PET&s=MTTEXVE2&f=M
      https://www.eia.gov/dnav/pet/pet_move_impcus_a2_nus_ep00_im0_mbbl_m.htm

  24. The dilemma emerges. You want a thid party to restore your freedom but it has to be an “approved” third party, i.e. the UN, a coalition of South American countries. Unfortunately, they will not offer you any meaningful assistance, just words and hand wringing while the Chavista chokehold grows ever more powerful. But don’t worry about military intervention by the US. It won’t happen. Even material support from the US would face withering criticizm by the UN, the EU, the Pope and our own domestic as well as other leftists circles. The dilemma is that your choices are both unpleasant in the extreme. You can shed your own blood against the armed Chavistas or you can wait patiently untl the Chavistas, like the Berlin Wall crumbles. The US did it differently but as a sovereign and proud nation you must find your own way. . When we sought independence from the mighty British Empire we swallowed our pride and begged for French intetvention without which we might still be British subjects

  25. Chavismo didn’t want Marine boots on the ground to help with the devastation in Vargas from the rain/mudslides.

    And almost two decades later, we have some here from the “opposition” rejecting these same boots, only there to help. (Risking their lives to do so, by the way, but of course, who cares about THOSE Gringo kids?)

    Is it laughable, pitiful, arrogant, ignorant, or all four?

    What a disgusting example of the mindset of some VZers.

    • Unlike after the mudslides, when navy ships were just off the coast waiting to help, there is no plan for American military to be deployed to Venezuela. It’s pure fantasy.

      • Don’t worry, Rory. When the Venezuelan contingency plan is activated, if necessary, you/the American public/Venezuela/Leftists the world over will be given advance notice….

        • I’m trying to imagine a scenario where there are American boots on the ground.

          The only ones I can imagine are far from close to happening (though, with time, they might) at this time.

          Do you think there is a chance of imminent US intervention including boots on the ground?

          • No, not imminent, unfortunately for Venezuela–first financial/economic sanctions, then any misstep (e.g.,threatened MR assassination/etc), then too many Oppo political/street/et. al. dead, then trying to screw with neighbors/Region, then Brasil/Colombian elections in 18 mos., then, if necessary, Plan B..

  26. Wow…i have been reading this for the last half hour……its like the USA is really going to invade……
    Por Favor……….0% chance
    But I would love it……..The Real problem is on the way there…..Cuba……..you want this all to end…..take away their influence……end them…..latin America still greedy and corrupt…but not as violent……we can put new condos all over the Island…..jajaja

  27. You are so right. This isn’t about the US or Trump. This is about your country and the decisions you make to save it.

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