Democracy in slow motion


Story after story we keep hearing is the same: three, four, five hours in searing heat, waiting to vote. So … I shoot a quick e-mail to the Capriles campaign to ask if they think this is a generalized pattern, or if opposition voting centers are slower than chavista ones.

Well, they say, um … chavista sectors of the country are voting more fluidly.

Yes, the best electoral system in the world.

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  1. Great, because a couple of random people on twitter make random claims and the Capriles campaign supports them that automatically means they are absolutely true. Good to know that the Venezuelan opposition never ever lies about anything.

    • Yes, certainly no Chavistas are having to wait in long lines in the heat. Noooooo…. Its all a dark conspiracy by Chavez to give sunburns to the opposition voters. I’m not sure there is anything these opposition hacks aren’t capable of believing.

  2. Just voted in San Bernardino, where the opposition always wins. Was in and out in two minutes. By the way, was that a concession speech Chavez was making? It sure sounded like one.

        • It would be really ironical if he were talking about the sovereign crisis, given that Venezuela has exponentially increased their debt as a % of GDP in order to maintain their illusion of social well being. Either way, Venezuela is still far from the % in europe, however the coupon paid is much higher, meaning that reaching the financial leverage ceiling will be much faster

      • Chavez, like many of his followers, are happy when the EU is struggling. Chavez was asked by a Liberation journalist if he had thought about a successor. Initially he talked about how chavismo was not a personalist project, and that the successor was “the people”. Then his revenge-mentality kicked in (interpreting the question as an attack which it may or may not have been, not sure who the journalist is or where Liberation stands on chavismo nowadays) and said AFAIR “la union europea fracasó”. In my mind this translates into a wish that the EU fails, since it at least so far hasn’t failed or fallen apart. It’s a mix of classic extreme left “capitalism is doomed” thinking and chavista resentment towards the West. You can often see this attitude on Aporrea forums and on also on Dossier, where Walter Martinez loves to present bad news about Europe, while sparing “brother” “republics” from bad news.

        Southern (catholic/orthodox) Europe is definitely in a difficult situation. However, if Chavez is reelected (I believe he will win with about 53% of the votes), within the next presidential period, he will discover that not only capitalist countries need to pay their debts.

  3. The delay its because of the information modules (CNE personnel with computers writing in piece o paper in a piece of paper the table where you vote), which are unnecessary and a pretty obvious way of creating a operación morrocoy when the information that they give you is printed on a list posted on the door of the and should be optional. Many centers have very little personnel on the modules, and in some centers the tables are empty because they only have 1 person in the information module and the whole line is concentrated there. Ironically, this causes a delay that makes the millions spent on the “best voting system” of the world, worthless.

      • Also there has been a issue with the voting machines. When you select your option, the screen of the machine shows your option with the picture of the candidate icluded, sometimes the picture takes a while to appear, if you press vote before it finishes appearing, the vote is null. This was obviously not intended, because people from both sides are getting null votes because of this, its a major technical and planning failure. This is what happens when you take what should be a very simply procedures (ticking a box in a piece of paper) and introduce a number of variables that just make errors like this more likely,

  4. Daniel thinks that it’s because a lot of Capriles supporters have to have their fingerprints re-registered since they’re not “in the system” as it were.

  5. A friend in Puerto La Cruz just came in to vote after waiting for five and a half hours. Such a perfect voting system! What a disaster.

    • I voted after waiting for almost 4 hours in a center in Colinas de Bello Monte. The amount of money spent in these machines, compared to the result we are getting its outrageous, two of the machines broke down and two tables were shut down for 2 hours during the morning.

  6. Juan, will you guys do precinct comparisons to 2006 as they start getting reported at 6 to help us get a feel for how things are turning out?

  7. Wife went to vote in Ejido in Merida, a Chavista stronghold still we suspect, and she waited five hours. She doesn’t know why she had to wait that long, it took her 2 minutes to vote.

  8. Judging by the coupon, Venezuela is already in a debt crisis with Chavez raiding reserves to meet spending requirements as well as selling gold reserves. If you add up national and quasi national debt then Venezuela is already at unsustainable debt levels, with higher interest payments as a percent of GDP than Greece or Spain. Its just that Venezuela is so opaque you won’t hear there is a debt crisis until the default has already happened. Greek politicos have the Germans to look over their shoulders, as well as an independent media, otherwise I am sure they would have continued hiding their problems and kicking the can down the road.

  9. Half hour for me; about 20” in line outside the center, 5′ in line at the info module, 5′ in line to vote. In and out the classroom in less than two minutes. So, without the checking lines, I spent 7′ minutes. Un cuello de botella, pa joder.

  10. Can we open a new thread about what is being heard in the field, including precinct results as they start making their way in an hour?

  11. Costa Oriental, 1.5 hours to vote — slow damn captahuella machine which I have never understood. Center starting to close down, few voters left.

  12. Well, from watching Globo, there’s a center in Valle Arriba, Caracas, where only 30 people were able to vote before the equipment failed. The best voting system in the world didn’t address this problem until FIVE MINUTES AGO! They just brought in a manual voting system. How awful for them.

  13. A MUD representative just said that about 85 people voted, and that according to voting rules, the CNE should have addressed this situation within 120 minutes, which, they obviously did not do.


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