While Juan is off licking his ego-wound (what’s up with that?!) I’m sitting wondering…is there even an official version of what Nicolás Maduro was up to 11 years ago at about this time?
It’s funny – you’d think Comando Hugo Chávez would go big with any story from that weekend that painted their guy in a minimally presentable light but, so far…radio silence.
Set aside the oligophrenic (and – sad to say – potentially counterproductive) meme now making the rounds that labels him (wrongly) in Richard Peñalver’s place shooting from Puente Llaguno into the opposition crowd.
What was the guy actually up to during the revolution’s darkest hour, when the armed forces turned against the regime and his life’s work hung in the balance? Don’t you think the answer to that question would tell us an awful lot about the man’s character?
But so far, nothing. Did the pajarito advice him not to talk about it? But then, why?
Maybe the muerto who can clarify all this isn’t Chávez, but Luis Tascón. Back in 2008 the not-so-dearly departed congressman alleged that Nicolás and Cilia skipped the country when the shit hit the F.A.N..
Which, obviously, isn’t confirmed at this point, but wouldn’t that be a scoop…
Bigger scoop: Where exactly did Maduro’s Colombian mother, who lives in Colombia, deliver Nicolás? In other words, where was Nicolás born? Did he really enter Venezuela as un indocumentado, receiving the Venezuelan nationality through one of Hugo Chávez’s decrees?
I heard she delivered him in Kenya…where’s the birth certificate!? I DEMAND THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE!!! #BirtherCriolloFail
Quico writes from South Sudan to talk about Kenya and Colombia and Venezuela!? Holy mackarel! Globalism FTW
Quico: For someone who considers himself to be an investigative journalist, your yankeephile need to associate tea-party cries on Obama’s birth certificate to the gaping holes in Maduro’s background is frankly, silly. Yet, the flippancy is so appropriate to a blog. (Any wonder why there’s little serious consideration by media organizers for the Capriles campaign?)
Rather than give us all a link to art. 32 of the Constitution, you might want to actually read it. Because its tenets are not “so broad” as you state. Furthermore, they hinge on certain clear-cut conditions, PLUS the nationality status of Maduro’s parents (now mother, his father deceased).
All you need to need to do now is produce some trite little youtube song and dance to substantiate your flakey position on the matter.
Newsflash: Ya don’t know. It’s obvious.
We need to get Donald Trump on this, pronto!
To give this unserious conspiracy theory a serious answer, Art. 32’s definition of what constitutes a “Venezuelan by birth” is so broad, it obviously includes Nicolás regardless of where he was born.
La Opinión, newspaper in Cúcuta, ran a story about Maduro’s relationship with the city, though there’s nothing about where he was born/ whether that’s relevant.
http://www.laopinion.com.co/demo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=417354&Itemid=93
You can check his mom is still registered as a Colombian citizen here: http://web.registraduria.gov.co/servicios/certificado.htm and typing in Identificación 20.007.077.
This is what you get in a pdf:
EL GRUPO DE ATENCION E INFORMACION CIUDADANA DE LA REGISTRADURIA NACIONAL DEL ESTADO CIVIL CERTIFICA:
Que a la fecha en el archivo nacional de identificación el documento de identificación relacionado presenta la siguiente información y estado:
Cédula de Ciudadanía: Fecha de Expedición: Lugar de Expedición: A nombre de:
Estado:
20.007.077 09 DE DICIEMBRE DE 1956 BOGOTA D.C. – CUNDINAMARCA TERESA DE JESUS MOROS DE MADURO
VIGENTE
Though it’s not registered to vote anywhere.
She must be so proud…
According to a Luis Tascón interview (http://www.lapatilla.com/site/2013/04/11/luis-tascon-diosdado-nicolas-y-cilia-se-rajaron-el-11-de-abril/) , Nicolas and Cilia managed to get out of the country and returned on April 14th..
Somebody didn’t read through to the end…tsk-tsk…
Oops apparently not, my bad..
http://m.facebook.com/UNETEACAPRILESRADONSKIPRESIDENTE?id=171032543054277&_rdr
Capriles new page.
anyone here wanna bet that Maduro wins this election with a larger share of the votes than the past one?
i do!!! — how do we set things up? de cuantas piochas hablamos?
Has anybody ever done a bio on this guy? All we know is:
-he played electric bass and listened to Saga
-he was a follower of Sai Baba
-he was a union leader (what union? what level of leader? did he ever negotiate a collective agreement? did he ever do anything as a union leader?)
-some gringos who dealt with him somewhere think he’s maybe pragmatic
-he has a mujer
-he is an appalling campaigner
I mean, that’s basically it.
We also know that he was trained in Cuba before being inserted into
the labour movement.
I read in his record of the Metro that he completed 3rd year of high school (grade 10). That says he didn’t graduate.
A journalist friend swears that early on he listed in his résumé “president of metro’s video club”
shows leadership skills!
That Metro record of his incomplete bachillerato seems the most honest to me. At least, when compared to the PDVSA site where he’s/was listed as a lawyer.
http://ovario2.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/04/botol-maduro.jpg
He has a nice mustache
Even though this seems relevant, I still don’t know why… I mean why us, moi, the bourgeois will be interested to know the whereabouts of Nicolas when the shit hit the FAN. (congrats for the pun)
We are not interested to challenge his credential as revolutionary or to challenge his loyalty towards the cause, are we? that would be more for someone inside of Chavismo, Cabello perhaps? I think that is not our place. Our place is to challenge his credentials as a leader, as a person that can be able to run the country, we need to challenge that.
Though we could use that as a background noise in the chavismo field, to make them abstain to vote for a lousy revolutionary. I’m sure that a lot of people may know about it, in the end that point is moot, since the supreme leader anointed this guy for a reason… right?
But I understand the intention of this post, and that is to move forward from the previous post of Juan.
You’re not the target.
Actually, you don’t get it at all. The only thing that matters Sunday is chavista abstention. Everything else is noise.
Anything that might induce somebody who loved Chavez but is unsure about Maduro to stay home that day is campaign gold for Capriles. Strategically there’s no higher priority than to depress their turnout.
I actually get that, when I said “Though we could use that as a background noise in the chavismo field, to make them abstain to vote for a lousy revolutionary.”…
It could work maybe or maybe not… the truth is that a large number are going to vote for Maduro because Chavez said so, and who else to stamp you and certificate that you are truly supporter of the cause than the supreme leader of the cause. That would erase any past transgression of Maduro. Hell even Arias Cardenas got elected Governor again in a not so Chavista state.
If what we want is to make the die hard chavista abstain, there are more effective ways. And In my view Capriles is doing a great job challenging the credentials of Maduro as president.
But I agree that the key point is to cause a low turnout among the Chavista field.
Weather report looks good… darn it!
But Quico, explain something to me. I don’t see how somebody can win fair and square given the facts that the judiciary, the military and electoral sectors are taken nonchalantly by Chavista officials. Do you?
Maduro, like the rest of the “revolutionaries” including the bird, were hidden while people were massacred in the streets. That way revolutions work and what will come if Sunday Maduro wins. God Protect Venezuela.
Jaun carlos eurea,
Chavez his under a desk in the military museum during his attempted golpe while others were killed. Maduro left the country while people were massacred. Yep, both revolutionaries of a feather. I should say chicken feather.
I deeply fear for Venezuela’s future if Maduro wins. He has no idea about diplomacy or respect for fellow countryman even if they are in the opposition. No matter how bad things get, Maduro will never leave office.
Chavez encountered the most difficult resistance and given the option of dying or living, he chose to live. They planned it bad for Caracas. Probability of failure very high all along.
If he skipped the country in a moment of difficulty, that makes him a coward just like Chavez and the perfect man to replace the great leader.
I have always wondered what Maduro was doing around 11A. I heard he helped Isaac Perez Recao afterwards (IPR behind lots of things including M-16 w/grenade launcher used during 11A). Baduel who flip-flopped continued to help IPR afterwards (with the Supreme Court investigation).
The most damage you could have done with that grenade-launcher, btw, was to hit someone over the head with it. It was non-functional and just for show. Yuppies playing Rambo.
The grenade launcher wielded by Carmona’s bodyguard was fully functional. I know that particular weapons history. IPR purchased from an ex-Disip weapons collector. Baduel remained loyal to IPR (they go back to casinos) and switched the weapon with the non-working grenade launcher. You do know Baduel was brought in by IPR and was subsequently crossed twice by the -Caldera-et al group? The whole thing was destined to fail.
Correction: the Carmona-Caldera-others group
Thus Baduel languishes in jail today. Chavez knew then Baduel had flip flopped just like Arias Cardenas flip flopped. Chavez kept his enemy Baduel close as Defmin but clipped his wings by removing the units with firepower by not letting him appoint those commanders. When Baduel spoke up after the referendum, HCF lost his patience. Chavez has been soft on many military officers cutting secret pardons and whatnot.