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Migration has always existed and will always exist. It’s a constant phenomenon and a right for those who decide so. In the case of the Americas,  there were important challenges in 2018 regarding migration flows: from Nicaraguans fleeing repression in their country and migrating to neighboring Costa Rica, the families separated at the U.S.-Mexico border, to the Central Americans who assembled in their Caravana Migrante to show the world that the challenges of displacement and the lack of opportunities in their country of origin is something that concerns all countries and not only the country of origin. However, the exodus of Venezuelans as a result of the economic, social, political and humanitarian crises in the country was the main migratory challenge in 2018, and it will continue to be so as new waves of displaced Venezuelans arrive to countries in the region

Check out the key milestones of 2018 regarding Venezuelan migration. What were the numbers? What were the policy responses that are worth highlighting? What were the key decisions made by the international community to address the Venezuelan migrant and refugee crisis in 2018?







  • Colombia concludes the RAMV on June 8. The registry documents the presence in Colombian territory of 819,034 Venezuelans, of which 376,572 are regular and 442,462 are under an irregular status.







And these are some estimates of how we close the year in terms of Venezuelans expats:

As many countries of the region take emergency measures to address the massive flows of Venezuelans, and recur to the international community for more financial resources for health, food, shelter and other costs to stabilize the Venezuelan displaced population, we cannot lose the sense of urgency in terms of addressing the root causes of this migratory crisis, and its regional effects.

This cannot become the new normal for Venezuelans, and the international community.

As we close the year, let us not forget that these are human lives that are at stake, people who have forcibly been separated from their nation, their origins, their families and loved ones.

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  1. Betilde, some thoughts: What is being done to, “address the root causes of this (Venezuelan) migratory crisis”? Why must poor nations like Ecuador/Peru/Colombia feel obligated to accept massive migratory flows from a country rich in natural resources like Venezuela, putting enormous pressure on their respective shaky internal employment/social services systems? Why must the U.S. feel obligated to accept potential (tens of?) millions of dirt-poor Central American/South American migrants, putting enormous pressure on its educational/medical/social welfare systems? The have-not nations/populations of the world massively out-number the haves, and there simply are insufficient capital/resources available to ever possibly be able to even adequately feed all, much less give them adequate shelter/medical care/etc…

    • The economic benefits of immigrants outweigh the costs. That is even before immigrants are obligated to pay taxes. The notion that our public systems are under enormous strain due to illegal immigrants is a myth.

      I live in a well off country and I am trying to think of the number of good upstanding tax paying citizens I know here who are neither here due to an economic or political crisis or persecution in some other place, or because they are descendants of such people. Not a lot. The fact is that our success is in large measure a product of receiving immigrants fleeing their counties of origin in exactly the circumstances that Venezuelans face. That is who we are: we, or our parents, grandparents et cetera, did what they are doing.

      We have a moral obligation as human beings to help people fleeing these conditions. We also have a moral obligation because many of us are directly or indirectly responsible for supporting these bad regimes through the consumption of products they and their backers export – for example oil.

      Without American dollars from oil, there would be no chavismo, there would be no Maduro.

      As for the problems in Mexico and Central America, a great deal of them can be traced back to what North Americans like to snort, smoke or shoot up while we are being the great economic successes that we are: it is almost divinely inspired moral symmetry that the collateral victims of our massive and lucrative drug markets would come to us for refuge.

      Venezuela itself was a net receiver of economic and political refugees for decades. Many in the region have benefitted not just from its oil, but it’s relative political stability and liberal immigration policies prior to the current situation under Maduro. In turn, historically, relatively few Venezuelans have moved to other countries. It is not like Venezuelans have been some sort of long term chronic burden on the rest of the region- quite the opposite.

      I’d note also that all the talk here over the past few months about Venezuelans being socialism indoctrinated sheep or zombies is just a cheap way to try to dehumanize people who face a predicament no different from waves of immigration in the past in other places. The notion that Venezuelans are exceptional in their ideological corruption is just bullshit perpetrated by pampered, ultra nationalist know nothings for their own mutual and perverse self amusement.

      Finally, we have no choice. The world is littered with the ruins of walls that did not work. The international community can manage the situation humanely, or choose not to out of some perverse nationalist reflex that is not even in self interest, but this mass migration is not going to stop as long as this ruinous regime is around. And in some countries, if politicians just turn their backs and say it’s not my problem, or use immigrants as the object of their demagoguery to whip up support and as a cheap trick to divert attention from their own stupidity and corruption, they will be replaced. They will be replaced as people discover they have more important priorities than spending vast resources on a problem that hardly exists, in support of a morally bankrupt anti immigrant ideology perpetuated by opportunists, felons and kleptocrats who need to divert attention from their own theft of public resources and institutional power.

      • Oh, please, spare me–I hope Canada will be inundated by millions of destitute Central/South American and African immigrants so that we can see what you concerned humanists will say then (NOT, because you have no borders with these legions of Have-Nots). Try watching the Direc-TV program on Canadian customs to see how liberal your country is in treating poor/destitute/needy/hungry immigrants trying to enter via land/air. You know what the Spanish/Latin American equivalent of the Protestant ethic Horatio Alger is?–Pepe, El Vivo, Ladron,Y Gozon.

        • My point is not to defend Canada current immigration system. My point is that we are a relatively prosperous nation of immigrants. Many of them not Protestants.

          • You have 30,000,000 people, the same population as VZ, with what? Five, ten times the land mass?

            So how are you “relatively” prosperous? And try that with 10,000,000 no-skill workers added to the mix.

            Canada keeps them OUT, but some of you Canadians are so delusional as to think you’re WELCOMING of these immigrants, when Canada is one of the most restrictive of ALL.

            You’ve bought into this feel-good lie that your Canada is morally superior to others, when in fact, the U.S accepts FAR more immigrants…even proportionately to population…than Canada.

            Your ignorance and arrogance is blinding.

          • Ira,
            Most of Canada is too cold and its soil too poor for people to live there. About 90% of Canadians live within 100 miles of the US border and that is not because they like people like you. Not at all. Not at all.

      • Do you have any statistics on the amount of taxes paid by immigrants and what is spent on them after they dropped an average of 4 kids ( I mean the US)? How many of the second generation make it beyond high school? How do they compare with Asian immigrants?

          • I am comparing mexicans and central americans here and their contributions to the present but, most importantly, the future of this country. Any statistics vouching for it?

        • Just some basic statistics Maria. Hispanics comprise 16% of the US total population. Hispanics comprise 23% of the US prison population.

          Bare-ass statistics. Make of it what you will.

          • Lying statistics–doesn’t include Mexicans committing crimes in the U.S., fleeing to Mexico escaping capture, many returning to U.S. with new Mexican I.D. cards (happens all the time with Mex. migrant workers to escape U.S. income taxation).

      • So what are you proposing, Canucklehead?

        An open boarder policy where anyone from any country can wander into another country at will, head for the nearest post office and sign up for welfare and food stamps?

        Does a country have the right to vet those wishing to immigrate?

        • Larry I did my speech on immigration reform here a few months back. Maybe one of the folks here who tracks my every word (and wisely so) can help you out finding that.

          To answer your question, the alternative to building a ridiculous wall and freaking out about hoards of immigrant invaders is not only the complete free movement of people between countries. There is middle ground, but discussion of it doesn’t get ratings and clicks and attract fervent supporters.

          Sensible people have worked on bipartisan solutions in your country and I am confident that in the future they will take root.

          This initiative around Venezuelans that Senator Rubio supports sounds like a good one.

          • “Larry I did my speech on immigration reform here a few months back.”

            Did any of your solution to the problem involve merely adhering to US laws already on the books? Asking for a friend.

      • “Without American dollars from oil, there would be no chavismo, there would be no Maduro.”

        What a load of crap! You want to blame America for all the ills of the world! You are wrong and such accusations are offensive.

        • Careful Roy, I had a very similar response and the CC censorship deleted all my posts on this article. Can’t be badmouthing the lefties over here!!

        • Roy, why don’t you consider my point. Nicolas Maduro is funded in a similar way to the way El Chapo was funded. Through the sale of a product mostly on North American markets.

          If you think the immediate discontinuance of that sale in either case would have no effect on the longevity of Maduro or of the Mexican cartels, then I believe you are the one making a controversial claim.

          I just ask that you and others think about that, and then everybody can go back to trashing the supposed mentality of Venezuelans (or other nationalities) which seems to be the accepted practice for a certain kind of thin skinned patriot not interested in facts.

          • MRubio is right, Canucklehead. You are proposing that the U.S. enact a unilateral embargo of oil from Venezuela, despite the fact that we have already seen how well that worked out in Cuba. Go back to the drawing board and let us know when you have a plan that might actually work.

            The U.S. has certainly made its share of mistakes in its tenure as a superpower in the world. Which empire has not? But to blame the U.S. for everything that goes wrong in the world is neither fair nor helpful.

          • “But to blame the U.S. for everything that goes wrong in the world is neither fair nor helpful.”

            Well, the man can’t help himself. It’s the founding principle of Canadian leftism.

            Cannuckles, I don’t disagree with you that Venezuela’s oil, that loaded in barges, and that still in the ground, goes a long way to keeping this regime in power. I just think your constant complaining about America buying Venezuelan oil as the main reason for Maduro still being in power is both simplistic and embarrassingly transparent on your part.

      • Cucklehead: “The economic benefits of immigrants outweigh the costs” — because you say so. “Useful” re-poster of talking points given by the masters.

        Welcome to the leftist filtered echo chamber.

        • This is hilarious. You guys are all rationalizing the USA being the largest trading partner of a repressive, socialist dictatorship which is contrary to American interests and ideals, and yet I’m the leftist sympathizer and anti American here!! That’s rich!

          Roy, you should know that Venezuela cannot just turn around and get all of its oil refined elsewhere. It is dependent on refineries in the USA, and after years of trying, the regime has not succeeded in extricating itself from dependence to a large degree on the US. But at least your point about the failed embargo with Cuba is consistent.

          Going forward, I’d expect to see fewer criticisms here about countries or individuals who continue to do business with the regime being morally bankrupt or not having the courage to take a stand. The consensus from you patriots is: if I don’t improve my lot off Maduro, somebody else will, so I’m not responsible for any benefit to him from our relationship (Cue sheep noises?).

          • Knucklehead:

            You know that if the U.S. did an embargo, you would be the first one to complain about it. Hell, most of us have been advocating that for years.

            We can accept your ignorance and selective memory (what about Canadian support of Cuba tourism!?), but we can’t accept out and out lying and bullshit.

            And for you to claim that you would have supported, will still support, an embargo is total bullshit.

          • Take it up with Roy and MRubio, Ira. They think trade between Maduro and the USA is of no special significance or benefit to the Maduro regime and Roy thinks that to argue that it is, is anti American.

          • “Roy, you should know that Venezuela cannot just turn around and get all of its oil refined elsewhere. It is dependent on refineries in the USA, and after years of trying, the regime has not succeeded in extricating itself from dependence to a large degree on the US.”

            Tell us cannuckles, exactly why can’t Venezuela “just turn around and get all of its oil refined elsewhere”? There are refineries scattered all over the globe, some most surely capable of handling Venezuelan crude, even if it took some retooling. Shit, the country used to sell a product called Orimulsion (basically an unrefined Venezuelan heavy crude mixed with WATER) all over the European contintent. Who needs a refinery when you can just mix it with water and sell it to stupid Europeans? But through its own incompetence, Venezuela allowed that market to just die on the vine.

            But back to refining Venezuelan oil today though.

            China, for instance, is Venezuela’s largest customer in Asia. They’re processing Venezuelan crude. Is it your contention that Chinese refineries are maxed out and can’t handle any extra Venezuelan crude? If they can, why doesn’t Venezuela send all of its oil there? Same question would apply to India as I bet there are refineries there as well that can handle Venezuela’s low gravity high sulfur crude. How about their OPEC buddies in the middle east? No technology there to handle Venezuela’s oil? I’m just having a hard time believing that no one but the gringos can handle Venezuela’s ever-decreasing supply.

            I haven’t looked lately, but were you aware cannuckles that in the not-too-distant past, Venezuela was even screwing its own refineries in the US (Lake Charles and Corpus Christi) out of oil they’d usually recieve? True that. Why would it screw its own refineries out of product? It just makes me question your assertion that the US is the only choice for Maduro.

            The answer, of course, like everything else involving Venezuela is likely much more complex than anyone here is realizing.

            Now, I, for one, have stated here often that if one wished to see this regime fall in short order, put a naval blockade in place and prevent even a drop of Venzuelan oil from ever leaving port and getting to any refinery, US-based or otherwise. Seemed to me like such an easy way to shut this problem down in short-order. Lord knows we’ve got the naval and air power to do it. Of course, as others have pointed out, that’s literally an act of war…..which we’ve learned is nasty business with lots of unintended consequences.

            You’ve explained in great detail the suffering of the millions of Venezuelans who have either been forced to leave the country, or who have chosen to leave the country because of their dire living conditions. And I agree with you 100% that no one’s suffering should be ignored.

            Along those lines we know this crisis has been on this president’s check list from early on, right? Would you agree with that statement? What I suspect the administration of His Orangeness has done was to look at all the options, select what they believed the most workable, and then set some achievable goals. Those goals probably included: Without going to war, get rid of the regime as quickly as possible, but do so while also minimizing the number of Venezuelans forced out of the country (at least at one time) to lessen the chaos and humanitarian crisis on the borders with Venezuela’s neighbors. Despite your assertion that immigrants are good for business, that would sound like a pretty reasonable approach to me. You probably disagree.

            Okay. So we then got this series of seemingly odd, ever-increasing sanctions of high-level regime members coupled with a dramatic tightening of all sorts of restrictions on doing US dollar-based business with the country EXCEPT for the processing of Venezuelan oil. Oh, and our buds the Canadians and the Europeans joined in on the idea. Must have been something there they liked.

            Now, why do you think the US left the trade in Venezuelan oil on the table? I don’t actually know the answer to my question, but I have some ideas why.

            My first response, at least a few years ago, would have been that we needed the oil. Today I think that’s bullshit. We don’t need the stuff. We’ve got all the oil we need produced in our own backyard. And if we need heavy oil that requires damage and destruction of the environment, the Canadians are happy to sell us theirs.

            As I watch all of this unfolding from here, I suspect the real reason the US left Venezuelan oil on the table, that’s to say, sending dollars to the country via the purchase of Venezuelan oil, was to give the regime at least enough money to keep the population alive via imported food while the rest of the country, including its oil output, slowly but surely atrophed and finally collapsed.

            It’s not pretty, and it’s slow, but I see one thing with my own eyes, it’s very effective. Changes that used to require months to detect, now occur in weeks and the rate is increasing.

            So, what’s your call cannuckles? Slow starvation until something finally gives, or one fell swoop in the form of a war signal like a blockage and the resulting, well, you know, overnight disaster?

            There really aren’t too many other options, are there? If you’re still waiting on Venezuelans to get it done, you’re going to have to have a lot more patience than I.

          • It is a complex situation. I’m not suggesting the Trump administration do anything at the executive level at this point (for example a blockade). It is dangerously incapable of doing anything right, doing anything to advance democratic values (American values) or doing anything in anyone other than the President’s personal interest.

            I know: stop nodding your head in agreement. 😉

            This particular discussion started over my point about what is responsible for sustaining this regime. It seems to me that the shrillness of the blaming of Venezuelans, and the certainty of the finger pointing, is directly proportional to the lack of insight into the causes of this trap Venezuelans are in. I tested that theory, and the results are in, and the results do not disappoint.

            But we’ve been around this point what? A hundred times now?

          • Canucklehead:

            You are often wrong; but you are seldom in doubt. The United States does not buy Venny Oil. Private companies, such as CITGO, buy Venny Oil. If these companies did not buy Venny oil, other companies would. Perhaps this would be less profitable for Venny, but that doesn’t mean there is no market for Venny Oil other than US located ones.

            Yes, you hate Trump. Got it. I’m guessing Trump does not give a shit about your opinion, though.

            But, you will ultimately get your wish, because as each month goes by, PDVSA has less oil to sell. Maybe in 2019, maybe in 2020, but they are not too far from having ZERO to sell unless China steps in and invests greatly/takes over production. But even then, most of any newly tapped production will just go to China. I forget, do you also blame China for sustaining the regime? Or just the USA that you hate so much?

          • AG, of course you want me to hate the USA, because you think a patriot and a pro American has to agree with Mr. Trump and hold your views.

            Your point is: American companies buy Venezuelan oil. Its the best deal for the Maduro regime and for chavismo. Am I missing something? I don’t think so.

            Chinese do as well. I don’t see Chinese people around here wallowing in their own hypocrisy as they point the blame at the victims of the Maduro regime, but if I do, I will let you know buddy.

          • Cnuckles,

            I did not say that a patriot or pro American has to agree with Trump and/or hold any of his views. Or those of Obama before Jan 2017, or those of any other prior US president.

            You constantly insist in comments on this blog that the US is to blame for the Maduro regime. It is not. But, your need to always inject this leads me to conclude you must hate the US, since it is important for you to try and cast blame on the US and its gas buying residents. Perhaps you believe the US government should forbid US companies from buying Venny oil?

            The Maduro regime is maintained by [1] the Maduro regime, with assistance from [2] the Castro regime (supported by Canada), [3] the PRC, [4] Russia, [5] Turkey and, of course, [6] the people (not all of them) of Venezuela.

          • Canadian companies assist the Cuban regime in the same way American companies assist the Maduro regime (and by extension, Cuba, which the Maduro/Chavez regime has propped up with its largesse), though not to the same magnitude.

            Does that help you? I’m not optimistic, as when I have pointed this out in the past, nobody has started bellowing that I am anti-Canadian.

            I’m starting to bore even myself with this merry go round I get on with you guys about where most of the dollars for Maduro’s repressive apparatus have come from. The answer is obvious. It is not even fun watching you argue that the earth is flat.

          • “This particular discussion started over my point about what is responsible for sustaining this regime. It seems to me that the shrillness of the blaming of Venezuelans, and the certainty of the finger pointing, is directly proportional to the lack of insight into the causes of this trap Venezuelans are in. I tested that theory, and the results are in, and the results do not disappoint.”

            LOL, what a non-answer, mixed with pompous assery, sprinkled with some misdirection, and then bathed in smugness. I guess I shouldn’t be shocked, but I actually am. “lack of insight”. LOL

            Cannuckles, how long do you think Maduro would last if a few hundred thousand slum-dwellers living above Caracas streamed into the city, surrounded Mira Flores, and refused to leave until Maduro was ousted or they were shot and dragged away? Not very long I’d say. It’s the only thing that would have an immediate positive result on this situation and it’s the thing he probably fears the most though he’s confident we’re no where near that point. His support is still strong with those that count surrounding the city and he’s using food to control those he can elsewhere.

            Here where I live for instance, about once every month and a half or so, the locals get outraged and shut down the nearby national highway for the day. Why? Because their damned clap boxes haven’t arrived. Every time they do it, the alcalde responds, they’re tranquilized once again, and then the cycle repeats.

            Venezuelans keep Maduro in power. NO ONE ELSE. There really is no longer an argument otherwise.

            American sanctions may eventually strangle the country to the point where it literally collapses, but even then, there’s no certainty that Maduro will be ousted as long as he manages to keep enough people supporting him with free food. That’s the case up until today at least.

            I now return you to your America-bashing, Trump-hating, CC poster-intelligence-insulting regular programming.

  2. I would love to know if there are any guys close to Chavismo who has managed to hear what the big gangsters are saying among themselves about this. I think it is the best thing that could happen to them, much better than the 1 million Bielorrusians who abandoned Belarus in the nineties and 2000s for Lukashenko or the Cubans who abandoned Cuba in several decades.

    I took part in different events trying to inform the EU about Venezuela from 2004 onwards. We were particularly active around 2007-2009 in Brussels. There were events all around the world. Even back in 2016
    there were a few international events. There were the escraches also against the Chavista elite abroad.

    In the last 3 years around 3 million Venezuelans who were in Venezuela are abroad and yet NOTHING, ALMOST NOTHING is happening. Do Smolensky and Borges and all the others and our groups everywhere think the US Americans or the EU or Latin American countries are going to send troops to Venezuela to libertate us? What is the plan? Expect very corrupt Venezuelan military, the worst of the worst, to do the job and become what they are not and never were?

    We urgently need to organise ourselves again and start shaming Russia and China and Cuba abroad. We need to be prepared for them to send agents provocateurs to our protests. We need to demand an independent electoral system and we need to demand open elections with results that won`t be overturned by Chavistas and their bosses from Havanna.

    We have more than three million Venezuelans abroad. It is understandable most of them are just trying to survive, to get their lives in order now but at least there are hundreds of thousands extra who could start doing a bit more than what we were doing 10 years ago.

    And yes, those Venezuelans who have been abroad for a longer time should also join.

    • Part of the problem, as I now see it, is that what remains of Venezuela is hardly worth saving. Whoever decides to commit their forces to removing Maduro & Co. from power will be forced to stay on for a couple of decades to govern and rebuild. For any country contemplating such a move, there is very little short and medium term upside. Even the long-term benefit is questionable.

      The cost of such an undertaking can only be born by a coalition, but I do not see the political will for this at present. To generate such a consensus would require death tolls and atricities on a far larger scale than we have seen to date.

  3. The estimates don’t make sense to me. There have to be many, many more migrants.

    The numbers in the graphic above total almost 3,000,000 by themselves, so what about Europe? And sloppy record-keeping? Plus the fact that this 3,000,000 total has been the static figure for more than a year.

    Keep in mind, 3,000,000 is also the estimate given by FaceBook, which supposedly is a reliable matrix of where people were born (first registered as FB users) and where they’re posting from now. But what about all those not posting, and heaven forbid, those poor, destitute migrants who don’t have cell phones? (Are there any?) And how do they calculate family totals?

    So I gotta go with the recent Harvard estimate of 8,000,000.

    But that graphic above:

    How come it’s listing these numbers of migrants, but such a tiny percentage of “asylum?” Do those low asylum figures represent those already approved, or the number of applications?

    If applications, Houston, we have a problem.

        • I think one good indicator of just how many Venezuelans have left the country is to look at the price of housing. Not too many years ago, housing prices kept up with or exceeded inflation. Today with hyper-inflation roaring ahead, the price of already construted housing has plunged. Building a new home is almost impossible because of the ever-increasing cost of materials and lack of cement.

          No, I don’t have government data to back up my assertion, but I do have anecdotal evidence from trying to sell a home in a decent part of Maturin and talking to many others who have tried to do the same. There are far more houses on the market than there are buyers, almost at any price. Heck even in this tiny town one can buy a home with very little capital.

  4. Still waiting for the answer to what is being done “to address the root causes of this migratory crisis.”–Oh, yes, I forgot: more meetings at the U.N., with tens of countries supporting NM’s government; more meetings of the ALBA/CARICOM countries saying everything is A-OK in Venezuela; more meetings of the Grupo De Lima condemning the Venezuelan situation; more calls from the Ven. AN for dialogue; more condemnation by the World/L.A./U.S. Left against the necessary definitive solution of the use of force; more calls by the Venezuelan Pueblo for their CLAPS, Min Vivienda “Tu Casa Bien Equipada”, and their Misiones few $ monthly stipends, especially for 13/+ yr.-old “Madres Solteras”.

    • It’s all political crap. We all know the only way to address to “root cause” of the crisis is replacing the criminals in charge with a new, half-way decent government. And that ain’t happening in decades to come because no other country will intervene militarily, which is, obviously, for many reasons, the only way to get rid of that pest.

      The “migratory crisis” will end by itself. After 4-5 million pissed-off people leave, hey the rest will stay. Old people, kids, and enchufados. And the world will embrace the new Cubazuela, real soon.That’s what we ultimately do with bloody dictatorships worldwide, don’t we.

  5. The guilt for these migratory problems lies in a ridiculous feature of human nature , which has instilled in peoples psyche a natural reluctance to take their lives when they know they cant live in their countries of birth because conditions there are unlivable and people outside their country dont want them to sully with their unwanted presence their sacred soil . The rational thing for these would be migrants would be to take their lives massively and rid the world of their unwanted presence……… , thats what Walter Benjamin understood the day in which fleeing the nazis to seek refuge in spain the spanish border officials decided to close the border to french refugees , that night he knew he was a trapped animal and took his life ……., the next day the border was reopened but thats an unimportant detail . Problem is people dont have the guts and sense to know when the game is up !!, If I were the official of a country which didnt want to recieve any refugees then I would distribute death poison pills among those who wanted to enter the border and invite them to use them !! A bit rough for those accompanied by their loved ones but who said life was a party. !!

  6. I am growing weary of being lectured by keyboard philanthropists as to my countries’ moral responsibilities, in regard to yet another wave of refugees, from yet another socialist experiment gone tits-up.

    It seems to me the recipient nations have, and are, doing a commendable job dealing with a growing problem, and do not need the condescension of those who are certain there are “xenophobes” lurking behind every tree.

    How about an occasional, “Thank You” for a job well done?

    • I thought you were a religious man Larry. Doesn’t the Bible give some direction on how to treat people fleeing oppression and destitution, and what reward and recognition that response deserves? Isn’t helping people in need, welcoming them, treating them as family and giving them shelter honoring God?

      • Yes, yes, yes, and yes! But a pat on the back now and then ain’t gonna kill ya:

        “Blessed be he who praises the good works of his fellow man, for his reward shall be great in the Kingdom of God.”

        –Lorenzo verse 12.23

        • “”Blessed is he that takes care of his hard-working own, and repels the entreaties of the infidel invader” (Dead Sea Scrolls, speaking of the Romans).

  7. Economics should not be the only factor driving the propensity to receive forced migrants. In my view, there must be humanitarian considerations. People are suffering….dying next door. Once again the narrative omits the impact the migration phenomenon is having on small Caribbean island states which face greater capacity constraints per capita, notwithstanding the relatively smaller numbers arriving there. Those migrants, both legal and illegal, tend to have less resources, are more desperate and opt for the closest, most available option. I refer to such states as the ABC islands and Trinidad and Tobago particularly. In this latter case cultural differences are more evident and the effects are becoming manifest with the appearance of the migrants in the crime statistics and subject to negative comment among the general population.

    • Why do the ABC islands get a pass with cultural differences as a major factor, as you describe it?

      Is the U.S. now a Latin country? And we’re supposed to integrate Latinos as such?

      • My post made reference particularly to Trinidad and Tobago Ira wrt the cultural differences. The more general point is that with vastly smaller populations, land size, econimic opportunities etc, the clash of culyures is starker.

  8. “I’d note also that all the talk here over the past few months about Venezuelans being socialism indoctrinated sheep or zombies is just a cheap way to try to dehumanize people who face a predicament no different from waves of immigration in the past in other places. The notion that Venezuelans are exceptional in their ideological corruption is just bullshit perpetrated by pampered, ultra nationalist know nothings for their own mutual and perverse self amusement.”

    In my estimation, with every day that goes by, this is indeed the case with those who remain.

    Like yesterday here in town for instance, give them their clap box and they head home with a big smile on their faces for having gotten yet another government freebie.

    What was in the clap box you ask? Each box contained 4 kilos of rice, 2 kilos of lentejas, 2 kilos of sugar, 2 kilos of harina pan, and 1 liter of aceite……all beautifully pacakaged in “Campo Fresco” heavy-duty bags at a cost of 100 bs per box – something less than $0.15. And every fucking last ingredient was produced, packaged, and shipped half way around the fucking world from fucking TURKEY!

    As best I can tell, the people here in Venezuela no longer care that they’re enslaved by a government that quiets them with lousy box of carbohydrates every couple of months. Call it whatever you want if that’s what makes you feel better.

    I’ll believe my lying eyes instead.

    • “As best I can tell, the people here in Venezuela no longer care that they’re enslaved by a government that quiets them with lousy box of carbohydrates every couple of months. Call it whatever you want if that’s what makes you feel better.”

      Talking about hitting the nail right on the head!!! I would add that Venezuelans have been sheeps for as long as I can remember, they just don’t care. 600 billion and counting in funds robbed, 1,8-2 million % inflation, crime rates through the roof etc etc and they just want their pernil!!! Nothing more and nothing less. Why should the international community even bother if el pueblo doesn’t? ? Chavismo will be here for many many more years to come.

    • What was in the clap box you ask? Each box contained 4 kilos of rice….2 kilos of harina pan…And every fucking last ingredient was produced, packaged, and shipped half way around the fucking world from fucking TURKEY!

      I posted these figures several days ago. MRubio responded to my post. For those who hadn’t seen my post, I will repost.

      The decline in Venezuelan agricultural production continues. Cereals production fell 17.2% from 2016 to 2017, after declining by more than 50% from 2014 to 2016. Given the migration from Venezuela, I am not going to mess with per capita figures.

      Cereals, total production , metric tons
      2014 3,597,762
      2016 1,782,326
      2017 1,475,140

      From 2014 to 2017, cereals ( corn, rice) production fell 59%.
      Which is why they are importing from effing Turkey.

      • “From 2014 to 2017, cereals ( corn, rice) production fell 59%.
        Which is why they are importing from effing Turkey.”

        And while I didn’t say this in my original post, I wouldn’t be surprised if Turkey itself hadn’t already imported a significant percentage of what’s in a clap box from the fucking United States.

        But what’s the big deal about paying double transport or other double charges amongst friends?

      • Turkey is a net importer of rice. They have very little land suitable for rice farming. To dedicate what would be a significant percentage of their rice harvest to 4 Kilo bags in Venny clap boxes says something about the corruption factor. Unless, of course, the rice is actually from India or Thailand or (shutter) the US …., then repackaged in Turkey.

        • Correct. In 2013, Turkey imported 29% of its rice supply,so the rice in those CLAP boxes was most likely imported to Turkey. Most likely with shall we say 99 44/100 % Ivory soap certainty 🙂 , as 2017 cereals production in Turkey is about what it was in 2013. Import data is up to only 2013.

          While the US exported over half of its rice production in 2013, it accounted for less than 10% of worldwide rice exports that year. Which would indicate that the rice in CLAP boxes probably did not come from the US.

          • It’s a shame that there are no low-lying areas of flat, fertile ground in Venezuela where rice could be grown to provide for the Venzuelan consumer. MRubio snickers.

            For the record BT, when I looked at the rice packaged in the clap box, I commented to my woman that I’d never seen grains of rice so tiny in my entire life. My dad worked his entire career for the LSU Rice Experimental Station developing new higher-yield seed rice varieties for Louisiana planters. While on high school and college summer breaks, I got plenty of experience with the crop, including planting varieties from all over the world. This stuff I can’t imagine originated in the US.

    • I can tell you it is the case that many Venezuelans who came to the US praise what Chavez did, and lament the current state of the country and regret that it has been so heavily punished by US sanctions. There are a number of Venezuelans active in local politics here and some of them helped organize against Trump and for better worker rights.

      The view that some progressive have, that Venezuelans leaving the country will be a reactionary group like Cubans, is way off the mark. Most people fleeing Venezuela today are just leaving because the sanctions have made getting food difficult, but they don’t have any strong political ideology against socialism.

      • Comrade Judy Lynn,

        You should post “economic war” drivel like this on Aporrea. Many of those a-holes actually believe it. Trump stole their holiday pork legs, and so forth. Trump became president in Jan 2017. Venezuela must have been awesome before that.

      • “but they don’t have any strong political ideology against socialism”

        LOL, the first time in her adult life that Judy Lynn has said something that actually makes sense.

      • Most people fleeing Venezuela today are just leaving because the sanctions have made getting food difficult/
        In my previous post, I noted that cereals (rice, corn) production in Venezuela declined 59% from 2014 to 2017. “Sanctions” have nothing to do with that.

      • Judy Lynn, I know you don’t want to hear this, will not believe it, and will certainly not ever respond, but my step-son, who lives on the western side of the country bordering Colombia, told me this past weekend that the state of Tachira, outside of its general lawlessness, has a functioning economy unlike most of the rest of the country.

        He says one can find most any item one wishes to buy, often with various maker options and price levels to choose from, unlike what he saw here where we live. He also told me that prices here seem to be generally DOUBLE the prices there.

        The difference you might ask? Oh wait, I forgot, you’re a socialist and would never concern yourself with how an economy might funtion. My bad. Anyway, the difference he says is that the Venezuelan national currency, the Soverign Bolivar hardly circulates there. No one wants to do business with the national currency. Goods are bought and sold using either Colombian Pesos or good ole American green backs!

        Imagine that.

  9. When people are trapped in a situation where civil violence against a cruel unscrupulous very well armed and trained enemy that doesnt allow free elections cannot afford a scape from their situation there are only four alternatives , adapt to the rule of the enemy to attempt to survive as well as you can , join the enemy ( for reasons of pure utility) , flee into exile or confront them with those limited means you have available and take the consequences . Every venezuelan has been forced to make a choice . the first two are the easiest to take , the latter two the most difficult …….. This is true of almost every people , when the nazis defeated and occupied france the vast mayority of the french adopted the first tactic , a few had the gall to take the second, some , not that many took the third and fourth alternative. Same thing has happened when the US governments decided to take troops into countries racked by a bloody civil war , lebanon and somalia , to be met with terrorist attacks of great violence they could not control , what did the US , the greatest power in the world do , they very quickly abandoned those countries ……….
    Ideology for most venezuelans is like being the fan of a baseball team something to celebrate when the going is good and to grieve when the going is bad but which never really touches them in the bottom of their conscience. Like the catholic religion , everyone professes it but no one goes to church . People in Venezuela play at being ideological but most of them treat it is as a kind of costume which they merrily wear during carnival time .

    • Well Mr. Bass, short of the CICPC guy with the blue eyes who flew a helicopter around Caracas and threw grenades at a few buildings and later paying with his life, and a few others who were military, I can’t say I’ve seen anything comparable to the French resistance here in Venezuela. Maybe there is and I just don’t hear about it. If there is and you know about it, I’d sure like for you to share.

      “Ideology for most venezuelans is like being the fan of a baseball team something to celebrate when the going is good and to grieve when the going is bad but which never really touches them in the bottom of their conscience.”

      Okay, you said that, I didn’t.

      My experience with Venezuelans in the business world is that they generally are strong supporters of whoever they view as having the upper hand. Exactly why that might be, I can’t say. Perhaps you can answer, or contest my observation.

      • Being loud supporters doesnt mean that they are that willing to go the last mile in supporting the ideas they purport to profess, like people in most parts of the world they have a healthy attachment to their own skin and to the protection of their basic life interests……, theatrically expressing something doesnt mean you are going to risk your life to defend particular ideas ……there is this cult of the epic that comes from watching too many villain and heroe movies as kids and because its a pretty effective form of rousing ones self infatuation , sense of moral self grandeur…..The reference to france is because a country the size of france , with the proud traditions etc responded very tamely to the nazi occupation , of course WWII propaganda movies made it as if everyone was in the resistance and thats boloney , Degaulle was a third rate figure in france when he became the head of the exile government , the big shots went along with accomodating the nazis and did nothing . Some 80% of the 90.000 french soldiers rescued in Dunkirk had returned to france within the year . The french Petain fleet in algiers sunk itself and fought the ally army sent to rescue it .

        • Two paragraphs from wiki on the French Resistance:

          The French Resistance (French: La Résistance) was the collection of French movements that fought against the Nazi German occupation of France and the collaborationist Vichy régime during the Second World War. Resistance cells were small groups of armed men and women (called the Maquis in rural areas),[2][3] who, in addition to their guerrilla warfare activities, were also publishers of underground newspapers, providers of first-hand intelligence information, and maintainers of escape networks that helped Allied soldiers and airmen trapped behind enemy lines. The men and women of the Resistance came from all economic levels and political leanings of French society, including émigrés, academics, students, aristocrats, conservative Roman Catholics (including priests), and also citizens from the ranks of liberals, anarchists and communists.

          The French Resistance played a significant role in facilitating the Allies’ rapid advance through France following the invasion of Normandy on 6 June 1944, and the lesser-known invasion of Provence on 15 August, by providing military intelligence on the German defences known as the Atlantic Wall and on Wehrmacht deployments and orders of battle. The Resistance also planned, coordinated, and executed acts of sabotage on the electrical power grid, transport facilities, and telecommunications networks.[4][5] It was also politically and morally important to France, both during the German occupation and for decades afterward, because it provided the country with an inspiring example of the patriotic fulfillment of a national imperative, countering an existential threat to French nationhood. The actions of the Resistance stood in marked contrast to the collaboration of the French regime based at Vichy,[6][7] the French people who joined the pro-Nazi Milice française and the French men who joined the Waffen SS.

          Someone compose two comparable paragraphs on the Venezuelan resistance. I’ll hang up and listen.

          • Well, as a starter, the Chavista (resistance) is executing “acts of sabotage on the electrical power grid, transport facilities, and telecommunications networks”, not to mention on medical/hospital care, water/food/medicine avail;ability, the environment in Bolivar, and on the critical oil industry.

          • Net, I guess if we can reclassify theft as resistance, then I was wrong and we can say without a doubt that this one resistin’ mother fucker of a country. 🙂

    • Bill, this is the problem I have with your argument:

      There are a gazillion ways…a billion coward’s way too…for the people to resist. Venezuelans choose none of them.

      You’re making excuses for why there’s no power to the people in VZ. But in fact, there IS power to the people in VZ:

      And they’ve chosen Chavismo for a few fucking bags of spaghetti and bottle of aceite.

      No mystery here, and you’re looking at the situation as you would like it to be. Not as it is.

      Venezuela is morally, educationally, and socially bankrupt.

      Thinking otherwise might make you feel better, but those ain’t the facts, Jack.

      My own migrant relatives near me, in Miami, whom I love dearly…

      Totally disgust me in this regard.

      • “Venezuela is morally, educationally, and socially bankrupt.”

        Precisely. After almost 4 million people left, including the best, better educated people, what’s left is mostly clueless sheep, uneducated zombies, old people and enchufados.

        Good luck with that.

      • Most of us tend to idealize the heroism of ordinary people , films and speeches teach us that heroism is natural and common when facing some abusive well armed tyranny , makes us big headed to believe it but the fact of the matter is that thats not the way human nature works. For hundreds of years people all over the globe have lived under tyrannies and just taken it without too much fuss , every so often conditions make people rise up but if you count the times thats happened vs the years people have just taken it quietly there is no comparison …….Venezuelans are no different from most people in the world …..its not that they specifically are morally mediochre but that they are human beings and most of these are morally mediochre. we celebrate heroism but pass over the fact that it raises its head only among some people and then in exceptional circumstances. I confess being a bit impatient with the boy scout attitude , even before Venezuela fell under the wiles of Chavez I ve always been skeptical of peoples natural heroism , A great many Venezuelans showed themselves gullible when they supported Chavez not because of his ideas but because of his winning ways , and now we are suffering the consequences , but an unarmed street revolt in these days is something which after having been tried does not seem to work very effectively right now …….it might happen at any time but these things are not predictable nor common . Its usually the military or an organized armed group that takes the initiative and then AFTERWARDS is joined by enthusiastic protesters ….who feel they have the means to topple a hated government . There are exceptions to this but not many.

        • But I’m talking about tiny, easy acts of resistance. Hell, there are hundreds of examples of this, even under Nazi Germany.

          Simple things like clandestinely distributing literature. Heavier online presence. Desecration of Chavismo symbols. More action from the diaspora…

          And what does the DIASPORA have to fear!?

          No, the verdict is in. Venezuelans are indeed inferior of “deserving” democracy based on their unwillingness to do anything.

          God rest Oscar’s soul.

      • Ira, why do you spend so much time on this site writing about a people you deplore as hopeless and worthless? It makes no sense.

  10. You wanna see what bias in reporting is? A stupid little thing “journalists” throw in to make you feel a certain way, to fit their opinions and agenda?

    Above, several times, it’s claimed, “75% of Venezuelan migrants have some level of education.”

    What the hell is this supposed to mean? They graduated 3rd grade? (An inferior 3rd grade education no doubt anyway.)

    It’s just a way to somehow categorize Venezuelan migrants as “better” and “more deserving” of an open arms policy in accepting nations.

    “Hey! We’re smarter and better than Somalis! Syrians! Central Americans!”

    It’s a pretty disgusting, and inaccurate, categorization of the Venezuelan diaspora.

  11. “75% have some educational level”

    So most of them can read a few basic words? (Writing is a whole different universe)

  12. Venezuela can hardly be compared with any nation, except perhaps Nicaragua these days. The unprecedented massive migration is due to an incomparable collapse of the economy, caused by the genocidal, criminal Kleptocracy in charge. Heck, Vzla is worse than Haiti, Cuba or Zimbabwe, it’s at the lowest sub-Saharan African levels of misery. Iraq or even Afghanistan might be better places to live for locals.. Syria might have been worse, but that was flat out war.

    But Chavismo did not come out of the blue. Chavismo was created by our people, millions who were ignorant and/or corrupt enough to support the regime. Let’s not forget that. Sometimes people get just what they deserve.

    • All too true–no sign of any real resistance in Venezuela, organized, or unorganized; the Este marchers have largely gone, Guevara in hiding, LL in house arrest/given up, the AN in hands of corrupt AD/HRA/UNT/Rosales/, Er Pueblo scavenging in the garbage/for price-controlled bachaquereable goods, print/radio/TV media completely controlled, top 2m “generals” fat/happy, Cuba calling the shots with 40m mostly spies. Even with the coming Ven. famine, who knows if anything internally will change, unless the pinball hits the wrong international bumper causing a game-changing response….

  13. And i just haven’t anything to say that won’t probably get censored so happy new year to all!
    Oh and I just want to offer my most humble and deepest apologies on behalf of all Canadians for some who comment here. We aren’t all quite so ignorant I assure you.

  14. Ignorance isn’t the problem Marc. It’s some gene, or perhaps a gland that certain people possess that requires that whenever a man-made disaster occurs, it must be blamed on forces other than those at whose feet it actually lies. Mirrors never exist for these people. And, of course, the fail-safe fallback position is always to blame it on Americans some way or another.

    Alternately, when non man-made disasters occur, that same gene or gland forces the sufferer to find some way to blame it on mankind, ‘scuse me, peoplekind, and yes, that fail-safe fallback position once again, Americans.

    I think you see how this works.

  15. BTW, I’d be in Maturin tonight with my woman enjoying celebrating the New Year with her and her kids, and most importantly, likely seeing Cristal for the last time in over a year as she will soon depart for Spain to get the medical attention there that is not available to her here at any price.

    Unfortunately, I have guard duty tonight here in the People’s Socialist Paradise of Venezuela. Leave for the night and this place gets stripped bare.

    Happy Fucking New Year Venezuela.

  16. “The economic benefits of immigrants outweigh the costs.”

    Then every country merely needs to swap significant portions of their populations every few years and everyone can be rich.

    I think another version of that is to tax ourselves to prosperity.

    You ever try standing in a bucket and picking yourself up by the handle?

  17. “standing in a bucket…” MRubio, you made me laugh out loud with that one. Happy New Year to all and let’s hope the people of Venezuela have a better year in 2019. I still think the Chavista dog and pony show ends this coming year.

    • “I still think the Chavista dog and pony show ends this coming year.”

      I hope you’re right but I very much doubt it. Am wondering what makes you think that bcuz I don’t see any signs of Chavismo loosing grip.

  18. In the spirit of the season, given the kind and gentle souls we can be, I suggest a collective New Year’s resolution: During 2019, no matter how provocative the comments from Canada are, we will not mention the fact that it has been more than a quarter of a century since a Canadian team has won the Stanley cup. Their collective national embarrassment is an open wound and we don’t need to be driving our Zamboni’s (an American invention) over their self esteems.

    • ASA058, the blame for their lack of competitiveness in hockey is the same for their poor soils and the cold. It’s somehow caused by Americans.

      Imagine the power we Americans have. Single-handidly flooding low-lying third world countries with rising sea levels as a result of global warming (caused by Americans, of course) while at the same time making Canadian soil too cold and crappy to produce anything in volume other than liberals.

    • Ah yes! But to bring this discussion full circle, let’s not forget that Frank Zamboni’s parents immigrated to the US from Italy.

    • The Leafs, Flames and Jets are all very good this year. Three of the top 6 teams in the NHL, IMO. Even the Habs are lurking for a playoff position. But none are good enough to beat Tampa Bay or Ovi-DC or Geno-Pens in the playoffs, IMO.

  19. Yes, but the lack of a Stanley Cup is not the fault of Canada. It is the result of the purchase by the US of Canadian oil just as US oil purchases produced Chavismo. Wait a minute. Does the US purchase oil from Cuba. I thought Cuba communism is the result of the U S embargo, the failure to buy Cuban goods. It is all so confusing to be a loyal lefty.

    • No, no, Bill! Cuban communism wasn’t caused by the embargo! The FAILURE of Cuban communism was/is caused by the embargo. If it weren’t for the embargo Cuba would be a commie socialist paradise.

      And, as hard as they try, the Canadians can’t seem to counter the embargo’s effects.

      • Sorry Lorenzo for my confusion but the argument for ending the Cuban embargo is that it will cause that communists dictatorship over time to fall but buying Venezuela oil, according to Canadian citizen Canucklehead, is the reason that the near communist dictatorship continues in Venezuela. I am having difficulty with the logic of Lorenzo’s argument.

      • The FAILURE of Cuban communism was/is caused by the embargo. If it weren’t for the embargo Cuba would be a commie socialist paradise.

        Your sarcasm is understood.

        For those who claim that the embargo is the cause of Cuba’s economic problems, the FAO has some statistics to suggest otherwise.
        Cuba’s Net per capita Crop (PIN) production declined 32.1% from 1961 to 2016. Probably not coincidentally, Venezuela’s Net per capita Crop (PIN) production declined 35.7% from 1998 to 2016. What do Cuba and Venezuela have in common? Not an “embargo,” but “land reform” and real existing socialism (ask Carlos Machado Allison how much land the Ven government owns) and government controls up the wazoo. Funny, agricultural production in Allende’s Chile and Nicaragua after the 1979 Sandinista victory- both self proclaimed Socialist/Marxist countries- show a similar collapse. Yet Quico tells us that Socialism has nothing to do with the collapse of Venezuela’s economy. 🙂

        Compare how milk production in Cuba has increased since 1961, compared to Latin America. The data is from FAO Stats.

        1961 Milk Production, Metric tons 1961 and 2017
        Cuba 1961 350,000
        Cuba 2017 541,100
        Latin America 1961 18,569,829
        Latin America 2017 79,545,712

        Cuba’s milk production in 2017 was 55% greater than it was in 1961. Latin America’s milk production in 2017 was 328% greater than it was in 1961.

        2017 milk production divided by 1961 milk production.
        Cuba 1.55
        Latin America 4.28

        Not even the PSFs have told us that the CIA was shooting the descendants of Ubre Blanca. 🙂 This stagnation of milk production in Cuba is entirely the responsibility of the Castro regime.

        From 2000-2013, imports comprised nearly half (49.92%) of Cuba’s milk supply, which is one more indication of the failure of agricultural production in Castro’s Cuba. Crops (PIN) Net per capita production Livestock Primary: Milk [whole fresh cow]: Production

  20. The Leafs, Flames and Jets are all very good this year. Three of the top 6 teams in the NHL, IMO. Even the Habs are lurking for a playoff position. But none are good enough to beat Tampa Bay or Ovi-DC or Geno-Pens in the playoffs, IMO.

  21. I’ll give Maduro and his gang of chavista revolutionaries their due. Maduro’s single-handidly changing Venezuela’s culture and that is no easy thing to do.

    Those of us who are outsiders, but who have lived here long enough, know how important New Year’s Eve is to the average Venezuelan family. Without a doubt, it’s the biggest night of the year.

    Step-son made the trip via air from Tachira to Barcelona on Saturday afternoon. He took photos inside the national terminal because never had he seen the place so empty. Easily one of the largest travel days of the year for Venezuelans, and there was virtually no one in the place.

    My woman returned a few minutes ago from spending last night with her family in Maturin. She commented that there was little traffic yesterday afternoon on the highway, but most importantly, she commented on the stark difference in the atmosphere in the neighborhood where Cristal lives with her parents.

    She reminded me of how many homes we’d normally see with multiple vehicles crammed into tight spaces and homes overflowing with people of all ages up and down the street partying with their families. Near midnight, people from all over the neighborhood would come walking by, shake hands, wish everyone a Happy New Year and then move on to the next home. Then the fireworks would start and last for close to an hour.

    Instead, last night, few cars, fewer parties, mostly small groups staying inside their homes. No one came walking up and down the street to shake hands and wish everyone well. The fireworks were very few and short-lived.

    Venezuela’s going down with a whimper.

    • This by far is the most serious indicator of how much change these socialist criminals have effected. They killed happiness.

      Oh, yeah.

      Feliz Año, catire!

  22. Its been reported in various international stats (US, Chile, Peru, Spain) that the average Venezuelan emigre has a significantly higher propportion of people with higher education than emigres from elsewhere. In some national surveys (Chile for exaple) its been observed that their professional standards are significantly higher than those of other places (or even of the professionals in the place where they emigrate to) , from what I know of people who have children abroad , many of them have been very well recieved precisely because of their high professional standards. Among the children of members of my family and close friends who have moved abroad there are 4 physicians , 1 dentist, 2 lawyers, a finance manager , a Dietician , 2 Mechanical Engineers (USB) , A computer engineer, a journalist specializing in international economics and a Anthropologist turned into a marketing professional (now working in spain after winning a competition in an academic institution against 4 spaniards) , and from what I hear from them they are surrounded by other vnezuelan emigres working in the same fields . They certainly dont fit the traditional profile of people engaged in low skilled ocupations . There are two nieces which are getting their degrees this year who plan to move abroad , one is a biologist and the other a USB Geophysicist . These are people who in ordinary times would never think of leaving the country but for the circumstances that now afflict us. . The one good thing about the 4th Republic was its concern at broadening the access to education for all Venezuelans who academically made the grade.

    • Yes, and the Fifth Republic is broadening the access to education for all Venezuelans who don’t academically make the grade. Also, remember, the Venezuelan diaspora has had several waves–the vast majority, particularly of the last waves, are basically poorly-/un-educated patas en el suelo, who are threats to the employment/social welfare systems of their new host countries, and, one could argue, are potential destabilizers of the always-shaky democracies of those host countries.

      • To say that more of the latter wave of emigrants are not university educated is not to say that on average a higher proportion of the total of venezuelan emigres have a better educational background than those of other countries , the latter waves also include people with valuable expertise in manufacturing , mining , oil even if they dont have university degrees. The current regime has totally abandoned education , specially higher education , which is barely surviving . schools are becoming deserted as teachers and educators join the more recent waves of emigrants and children lack the food and clothing to keep going to school ….., there are ample reports of the above……., many of them have a hard time entering the work fields they come from , and thats only natural , but generally they are a better kind of inmigrants that normally come from other countries .

    • 4th, 5th or 7th republic, there’s a clear fact: Kleptozuela succumbed to the ignorance, lack of real education and vast corruption of its own inhabitants. Enjoy the ride.

  23. In the diagram, note the “plus” sign after 350,000 for the USA. What that means is, “nobody has a clue,” which provides a little insight to the state of US immigration affairs.

    Candidate after candidate has included immigration reform in his platform, only to ignore the problem once in office. Except for one, that is. Sometimes it takes a non-professional politician to tackle the tough issues, and political fallout be damned.

  24. People keep blaming “Chavismo” for Venezuela’s ultimate tragic demise. But exactly what is Chavismo? MILLIONS of crooks and thieves, that’s all, make no mistake. No “socialistic” ideology, fuck that carp. Money talks, socialismo walks. Here’s a little figure for ya, 3000 “generals” and 5 MILLION leeches on Maduro’s “public employee” payroll today, chew on that..

  25. See if you comprehend. Who destroyed Vzla? Maduro, Cabello, of course not. THOUSANDS upon THOUSANDS
    of leeches and thieves did.


    Average people. Crooks. Connected to the regime. Did I say THOUSANDS? Yes, your people, tour next doo neighbors, now living the good life in Chile or Spain. At all levels of society they did the stealing. Hundereds of thousands I should say. Kleptozuela gets what is deserves.

    • Everybody. From the middle-class raspa-cupos to the nation’s treasurer and everybody in between, above and below. I’d argue that this collective cancer stems from the exaltation of the “viveza criolla” over “universally applied rules”, which appear to be essential to the long-term health of an economy.

  26. Just in PDVSA, Hundreds of thieves, mega thieves, now living the good life. Extrapolate that to every industry.
    The magnitude of the Mega-Theft in Kleptozuela is incalculable, probably the worst in World History. According to some estimates. And, again, not just “Chavistas” or “the “Government”. No. Hundreds of thousands of “pueblo” people did the killing and stole the money. You know who you are, in Miami, Madrid or Buenos Aires.

  27. We had corruption in the past , long before Chavez , same as many other countries , same as has been the case in many areas of US life , some of it piously legalized or ideologically sanitized by ambitious and venal legislators , a chunk of the US finance industry for example , but the country kept going , wasnt bankrupt the way it is now , there even were areas of progress in many fields . the ultimate form of corruption however happens when a charismatic leader like chavez takes control of the minds of the common people of a country , were it not for chavez , sure we would still have corruption ,but not the total disaster that afflicts venezuela now , the scale of corruption would be much less, people followed him because of his charismatic charms , not specifically because of his ideology which had been disseminated before by others without any one paying it any attention .

    • You actually have the balls to compare corruption in Venezuela to the U.S.?

      Bill, you just dropped yourself 10 pegs on the making sense chart.

      Really, really ridiculous comment.

    • same as has been the case in many areas of US life , some of it piously legalized or ideologically sanitized by ambitious and venal legislators , a chunk of the US finance industry for example..

      In support of Bill Bass’s statement, consider the following. As an example of government corruption in the finance sector, consider what Senator Chris Dodd did in making insurance companies and investment banks eligible for federal bailouts. The large magnitude of the 2008 bailout was the consequence of a provision which Senator Chris Dodd added to the a 1991 law known as the FDICIA. Walter Todd, a counsel at the Federal Reserve Bank in Cleveland, examined the provisions of a 1991 law known as the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation Improvement Act.

      FromReckless Endangerment.

      But in scrutinizing the FDICIA, Todd had uncovered an obscure amendment to the law that dramatically expanded the federal safety net, increasing the likelihood of taxpayer bailouts in the future. While previously only commercial banks who were members of the Federal Reserve system could request emergency financial support from the central bank in times of crisis, the amendment to FDICIA increased the availability of Fed assistance to include investment banks and insurance companies.

      The amendment had not attracted much attention before or after the bill was passed. Todd discovered that the change had been quietly inserted late in the legislative process by Christopher Dodd, the Connecticut Senator whose constituents include most of the nation’s large insurance companies. During a debate about the bill on the Senate floor, Dodd said that his provision would give “the Federal Reserve greater flexibility to respond in instances in which the overall financial system threatens to collapse. My provision allows the Fed more power to provide liquidity, by enabling it to make fully secured loans to securities firms in instances similar to the 1987 stock market crash.” [p 40-41]

      . Senator Chris Dodd’s state of Connecticut has the headquarters of a lot of insurance companies. How much money did Dodd get from Connecticut-based insurance companies for adding them to federal bailouts?


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